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Thread: what the BLEEEP (petition)
Coeus-Slaba wrote:
i jsut saw somone sellign a lvl 1 rancor for novice CHS WHAT THE BLEEP I Worked months to get mch and now a rancor means nothign cuz some shmuck is selling them for 600k to any novice ch and the rancor has 10k ham 30 resists **edit** **edit** **edit** this is such bull please devs make it so novices cant have the benifits of masters! what the heck! please sign petition tofix this!
/sign
Yes, I saw this last night in Theed, on Ahazi, too. I made a spatial statement that that creature was bugged and an exploit and should be destroyed. I doubt if anyone paid any attention to me.
That rancor is an abomination. The lowest a rancor skin can go, I'm told, is CL 35. There's a reason the first major revision of CH included a cert system...because there were too many novice and nothing else CHs running around with rancors in the first six weeks of release.
Message Edited by TrandoshanDroidTech on 05-27-2004 05:30 P
Message Edited by TrandoshanDroidTech on 05-27-2004 05:30 PM
TrandoshanDroidTech wrote:
/agree
Nerf BEs! I spotted another guiy on bria in theed selling a 11K rancor for 2.5 million, that's f*ing absurd!! a 500K HAM CL 70 Kimo could go for that, but not a CL 1 baby! Its a damn ripoff if you ask me. This may also be an exploit.
I also sent the guy an email saying its a ripoff and an exploit, I'll report him
How do you report an exploit? or someone exploiting?
Message Edited by TrandoshanDroidTech on 05-27-2004 05:30 P
Message Edited by TrandoshanDroidTech on 05-27-2004 05:30 PM
BEs would be the first to agree with you, I suspect. I read their forums every once in awhile to see what their issues are since we're basically sibling professions. Other than the rare exploiter looking for a way to make those monstrosities (who usually gets flamed to heck and back), theywishthe validity checksworked they way they weresupposed to more than anyone. And as for crying nerf goes, look how it turned out for us when everyone else yelled it.
On Sunrunner, at least, this isn't really even an issue. I've been to every registered "Pet/Pet Supply" vendor on the world map of every habitable planet looking for high-end, master-level BE pets and have found only two places that still catered to our market, one of which was having a going out of business sale. BEs on Sunrunner now work almost exclusively for chefs and tailors, and that's partially due to the borked validity checks on their pets. It's also due to the fact that creating pets is largely a random procedure, quality DNA is brutally difficult to get, Master CHs rarely allow their pets to die and therefore are rarely repeat customers (whereas there's an insatiable market for tissue), and, finally, there just aren't that many of us CHs left to provide clientele.
BEs are a lot better off than they were, there's no doubt about that. Nerfing them isn't the answer to this particular problem, though. They want to be fixed, and a fix is what they need. In my reading of that forum, a fix is exactly what their Correspondent has been fighting for, too.
Please don't nerf them....I can pull out a wild Rancorand that one at the same time it's nice if your a master. Or do you guys like being gimp? geeze. Use the bone while you have it. If it wasn't for the two rancorsI would of dropped ch a long time ago. It's just a matter of time till this prof dies anyway. *looks at all the i dropped ch posts*
Why nerf the BE's? The pet was made post patch. Meaning after the big BE fix. Get your facts stright.
Signed,
The Depressed MCH/MBE
Angel,
It's not a nerf to BEs, it's a nerf to non-CHs who can call this pet since the skin is borked. They are an abomination that slips by the pet validity system and they're pretty rare. Though I don't find too much fault in an MCH using one as a second pet, since this profession is so twisted, the problem is anyone can use one which further weakens the CH profession.
The cure for CHs doesn't lie in pet exploits available to only a few CHs, it lies in fixing the entire profession and adding in new pets.
TrandoshanDroidTech wrote:/agreeNerf BEs! I spotted another guiy on bria in theed selling a 11K rancor for 2.5 million, that's f*ing absurd!! a 500K HAM CL 70 Kimo could go for that, but not a CL 1 baby! Its a damn ripoff if you ask me. This may also be an exploit.I also sent the guy an email saying its a ripoff and an exploit, I'll report himHow do you report an exploit? or someone exploiting?Message Edited by TrandoshanDroidTech on 05-27-2004 05:30 P
Message Edited by TrandoshanDroidTech on 05-27-2004 05:30 PM
500k HAM is not possible 14k is max without going over cl 70 and that is not easy.
LVL 35 is the bottom Rancor, these pets are 1(0) lvl it is because they were made prior to the BE revamp and and the great CH nerf of 2003, and tamed after that.
I have one my self that I don't use, but paid 50k for it so I am keeping it. I will tell you that they have to be able to Tame a regular rancor to tame it so the NCH's are getting them tamed by someone else for use, so one of our MCH buddies is helping them, infact it is more likely that is fellow MCH's doing this and not BE's. The Devs will figure it out and fix it.
Also for your own peace of mind the BE community is much more concerned about such issues than you guys, and things like this are on their top 5. These cannot be created anymore, so there are a limited number out there, these are left-overs.
Message Edited by GMANHNC on 05-29-2004 11:56 AM
TrandoshanDroidTech wrote:I meant the 500K HAM CL 70 Kimo as an example of what would sell for 2.5 million creds, honestly, does anybody else thinhg selling a CL 1 ranc with 11K ham isa big ripoff?Also, since the guy I reported was sellinjg chef stuff, I'm pretty sure it was a BE.. I reported him and let the CSRs/Devs take care of it since its not a big concren with me, although the fact that selling for that much seemede like a ripoff to me, I also sent the guy an email saying that the pet is bugged and that 2.5 mil is a ripoff, didn't flame the guy or anything, just told him what was on my mind.
Gotcha, well then you are right other than that these are very rare and connot be made anymore, and it doesn't seem to be a big dev concern right now, so someone could use for a huge benifit, for example a TKM/MRM could use without any CH skill at all this is infact usable as a non-ch, so these novice CH's don't even have to be that. ALso for an MCH you can have a 34,35, and one of these if you pull it last.
On a side note, no one should ever destroy a baby rancor for a gnarled rancor baby it is not as good.
I've started seeing more and kore of these types of non ch power pets on Ahazi. I even tracked down the guy who makes em. He gets 500k a pop for non ch Cats that have 10k hams, and could go a few rounds with my lvl 57+ Cats.Also of note, not sure if any of you have seen this, but this same BE makes Pet stims that heal for 1300+. HAve any of you found these yet?I know a few BE's who hate this just as much as we do, infact so much, they only make pets for two reasons, normal level 10's for mounts, and high end pets by order only.
The answer is not to nerf the BE's, but get the pet check in line with the game. Also, make sure that a type of pet, ie Rancors, or Kimos, or any other high end beast can no longer be "made". those should be MCH tamable only. I'm all for the BE's making stuff, sure, it cool to get a level 60 Razor Cat made, however, there are some animals in the game that should be MCH only, after all, I still can't use a flamethrower.
I think two things shouls happen. A CH union needs to form, on each server, and have some point of contact outside the game, this way we can attempt to take control of our markets, the price of taming and the price of mounts, and speak with one clear voice. Is that possible, would we all follow through?
You are right these non-CH monsters and invaid pets are the BE community's number one concern. Most of this is a prduct of the hologrinders. These people are grinding through, and have no regard for the professions they master, and every once inawhile they find one they can exploit and make money for a bit.
The 1300 Pet stims are D's with Doctor parts, the reason you don't see many of these is because fish is required to make them. Have you ever gone fishing? 24 fish units are required per stim, I will never make one unless some one brings me the fish lol.
CH union isn't a bad idea, but won't work while these people are out there, they come to the BE forums all the time looking for how to make these pets. They get flammed horribly. Yeah! Maybe if we had a CH enclave that only voted in CH UNION members would be able to join...lol.
Rancors and KIMO's cannot be below 35, any you see are pre-patch left-overs or possibly made from pre-patch left-over dna! As for the Super 10's they aer still working on this, no reputable BE makes them other than we have been asked by our corespondent to make invaild pets to replicate to help the devs track them down.