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Thread: couple of questions concering ch
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Spoto
Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:02 am
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Ok I havent played swg in about 7 months ive been gone due to my job in the navy, and i just got back on swg yesterday to find a lot has changed. I was wondering if maybe some of my questions could get answered and that might help me to get back up to speed with the game.
1. What is the rare list everyone talks about? and where do i find such a list? and what does finding these creatures do for me?
2. When i left the highest level of pet i could have out was like 60 or close to it has that changed? and to what level now?
3. When i left the most pets u could have out was 3 has that changed? and how many now?
4. When i left all BE really dd was make pet stims now it sounds like from these forums they can do a lot more what do they do for us?
5. When i left a plain old rancor had the best HAM and was the best pet to have( from what i understood at the time) and now i hear u guys talking about some creatures i have never heard of so what is there to offer out there now?
6. When i left CH's were sought out and needed for hunting groups becuase of there pets has that changed?
Ok I sure will appreciate anyone and everyones answeres to my questions it has been a long time or me and i am ready to get back into the scheme of things.
Rushyo
Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:08 am
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1. What is the rare list everyone talks about? and where do i find such a list? and what does finding these creatures do for me? http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=creature_handler&message.id=175431
3. When i left the most pets u could have out was 3 has that changed? and how many now? I believe not
6. When i left CH's were sought out and needed for hunting groups becuase of there pets has that changed? I guess so (new player hehe) I've never been asked and I've never seen anyone else asked. We seem to be the 'cool but useless' class to everyone else.
Sorry I can't answer them all, being such a newbie, but there's what I can say.
MrHawat
Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:18 am
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2. When i left the highest level of pet i could have out was like 60 or close to it has that changed? and to what level now?
The level is 70 and has not changed. There are some issues with +65 aggro pets requiring +taming clothes.
3. When i left the most pets u could have out was 3 has that changed? and how many now?
Still 3 at Master but can not total more than CL 70.
4. When i left all BE really dd was make pet stims now it sounds like from these forums they can do a lot more what do they do for us?
BEs now make the best pets in the came. You will not be able to find anything close in the wild. They can make a non-ch pet that is better than a CL 45 wild one. Since there was a mass exodus from CH it was followed by one in BE. It might be hard to find a BE on your server that will make CH pets because they are tough to do and there is little demand. Most make tissues and non-ch pets.
5. When i left a plain old rancor had the best HAM and was the best pet to have( from what i understood at the time) and now i hear u guys talking about some creatures i have never heard of so what is there to offer out there now?
The best Creatures are made by BE. Most of the ones we talk about are "Rare." It is what CH has been reduced to. We spend weeks or months looking for a "Rare" baby. I have killed hundreds of lairs with no luck on some of the rarer ones. Most of the stats are not that great. It is just done for braggin rights. Few would use a Rare in game because they do not want to damage it.
6. When i left CH's were sought out and needed for hunting groups becuase of there pets has that changed?
Yes, it is the opposite now. CH are not welcome in most groups because pets do not keep up with speeder bikes and are slow to call. With armor and buffs most combat professions can tank better than pets and deal out alot of damage. I am a MTK/MCH and do not use my pets when doing missions because they slow me down.
Basically, the CH has been nerffed into near uselessness. We have been reduced to looking for Rare creatures to tame for something to do. When I say Rare, I mean rare. I have killed over 300 Bull Rancor lairs and I do not know how many wild spawns of them and have yet to see a baby spawn. My Skreecher took ONLY 62 lairs. The vehicles have eliminated the demand for mounts. The BE has eliminated the demand for both non-ch and CH pets. The only way to make money is by grinding missions and selling meat and hides like a ranger or scout. The profession is unplayable without a second master combat profession.
Sorry, to sound so negative but that is just the way it is and has been since Dec 03 with very little hope in sight.
CHFreak
Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:21 am
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Spoto wrote:
Ok I havent played swg in about 7 months ive been gone due to my job in the navy, and i just got back on swg yesterday to find a lot has changed. I was wondering if maybe some of my questions could get answered and that might help me to get back up to speed with the game.
1. What is the rare list everyone talks about? and where do i find such a list? and what does finding these creatures do for me?
As previously answered
2. When i left the highest level of pet i could have out was like 60 or close to it has that changed? and to what level now?
Max level now is 70
3. When i left the most pets u could have out was 3 has that changed? and how many now?
This is stillthe same
4. When i left all BE really dd was make pet stims now it sounds like from these forums they can do a lot more what do they do for us?
BE pets have customised resists/armor and depending on the capabilities of the BE and amount you are willing to pay all manner of special attacks can be added (ie dizzy, posture down, intimidate, plague strike)
5. When i left a plain old rancor had the best HAM and was the best pet to have( from what i understood at the time) and now i hear u guys talking about some creatures i have never heard of so what is there to offer out there now?
have a look at www.swgcreatures.com for information on all things creature, in short the highest ham tameable no is i belive the arachne widow but suffers in resists compared to some others in this upper end bracket
6. When i left CH's were sought out and needed for hunting groups becuase of there pets has that changed?
yes it has, very few of us seem to be getting requests to join hunting parties for the tanking ability of our pets, mostly seems to be that we are convenient in that we can group our pets for higher paying missions. Often in xp grinding groups pets are disdained as xp sinks, reducing the overall xp available on each kill. Before I joined SWG a significant nerf of pets was done and as a result they are much less desireable now compared to a combat classed character wearing 80%+ kin resist comp armor with a full set of doctor/dancer/musician buffs.
Ok I sure will appreciate anyone and everyones answeres to my questions it has been a long time or me and i am ready to get back into the scheme of things.
Llandros
Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:34 am
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basically beyond finding yourslef new pets ch's now have little use
if you do gourp hunt with your pets expect to get screemed at if you dare to group a pet, sometimes youll even get accused of stealing xp if you set a pet on something somoene is attacking (last tiem tihs hpapend to me was on a gorup sharnaff hunt after the thir tiem of trying to explain a widl female kaadu does next to no dam and im not stealing xp im hleping tmh eget it as im not actually fighting myslef so my shares splitting btwene them i gave up waded in and showe thme xp stealing (im tkm i stood at the lair and spammed spinattack2))
its kinda ironic really if you do get inot a group your liable to hear more complaints than compliments and the same poepel who complain aoubt you being in the group will be the ones demanding your pet tank for tmhe whne they get themselves into trouble perosnally vie reached the point where i just leave if poeple are complaining too muchif they dont wnat em fine, i know i cna hunt jsut as well without them (wnhe i do gorup hunt its usually with low leve players who cna easily get into trouble so ill often pull agro off tmhe onto my pet or myself(actually got accused of xp stealing by somoene i saved using taunt once, i left the group and given i was the only member with any non marksman/brawler fighting skills it kinda fell apart at that point)
basically dont expect godo treatment fomr your fellow playeres as a ch your going to get one of three views of you rarer a lot
some will conider you a liability and irritant in a group
some will consider you a joke whos only value lies on your non-ch skills and in a pet taking agro fomr thme occasionally
luckily tyhere is one positive veiw, head to mos eisley and call some of your more exotic pet sof rthe new players to take a look at and you'll see it
Indene
Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:28 pm
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Spoto wrote:Ok I havent played swg in about 7 months ive been gone due to my job in the navy, and i just got back on swg yesterday to find a lot has changed.......6. When i left CH's were sought out and needed for hunting groups becuase of there pets has that changed?Ok I sure will appreciate anyone and everyones answeres to my questions it has been a long time or me and i am ready to get back into the scheme of things.
Well when I go to a hunting planet like endor or darthmor and I have my MCH tags on I still get besiegd by invitations to join a hunting group. Everyone wants my pets out and they want as many as I can possibly call. So I call out my pets. group up and form up and go to the mission terminals to select my 2 missions. Then I notice something strange. There are like 16-20 people/pets in the group window list but most of them are blank meaning the group memeber is out of range. "What's this" I say to the leader standing nearby. "What's what" he/she says. I say "I am ready to hunt but where is everyone?" "Oh they are out hunting. once you have your missions go on and knock them over and come back for more." puzzled I reply "But where is the group?" "They're here on (insert planet name here) doing their missions." "But where is the group hunt and attack" I say getting an uneasy feeling. "???" he/she says. "What do you mean? you mean like where all of us attack a single lair? Nah that is passe. old data. what with the empire and all we now have killer armor and buffs like you would not believe. Add that to the elite training and we can solo anything here. So we all group together to get the highest mission payouts then go off and do our solo missions." Stunned silence from me. "Hmmmm." He says noticing that I am not wearing any armor "what combat skills do you have? "I am a Master Creature Handler" I hastly reply. "Yeah Yeah I see that from your tag but what combat experience do *you* have." "Pistols 4 from the marksman tree" I say (I have a bad feeling about this). The leader takes me by the hand and leads me to the cloning station. "Listen kid. you better clone yourself here and get good insurance on your stuff." "Actually you best just sit here and keep your pets company so the rest of us can get those high missions. You wouldn't last 5 seconds out there on your own." "But my pets---" "Are great" he interrupts me "for getting missions. They dont do so well out there. Its a dangerous world. You just sit there and knit or something. You a surveyor per chance. Prospect a bit. Shop on the bazaar. we wont be long." He walks back to the starport to try and add another player to the "solo" group. I look at my beloved cats and ponder the meaning of CH. "Well" I say at last. "At least we are still useful for something. I wonder if that is what the gods mean by a support profession."
-Indene-
Message Edited by Indene on 10-02-2004 12:31 AM
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