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Thread: does using pets cause jedi viz?

Mack2000mc
Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:55 am
#1

Unsure about this, ive read the jedi forum stickies and tend to believe they dont? but can any one clear this up?


If im in a group with a jedi inside it, and i use a pet ungrouped to spin a lair will this cause jedi viz?





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masterzookeeper
Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:56 am
#2

one jedi told me it did, but others say no


so i have no clue






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Mack2000mc
Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:09 am
#3

Thats whats happened to me too, i think maybe a while back they did?



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Thus sets off page after page of responses. Halfof which are honest and true: "You must download the trial and see for yourself." Some are "sky is falling" responses. One or two suspect some trolling and question how the OP is able to post here. And the remainder latch on to one of the questions and debate the topic until flying pigs return carrying the wayward cows.
jopenack
Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:22 am
#4



No they don't


I used to be a ch/jedi, then they changed the powers tree so i dropped ch and grinded it on my alt,but even after the cu I would use my alt and bf pets to the jedi and use them for protection since the cu made my jedi weaker than a new bron kitten. Through personal experience I can say with confidence if its just the ch's pets with you and the owner is 32m away unless owner is grouped too, NO Vis. I have never been on the terminals while grinding that is proof enough considering the months I used pets wether mine or my other accounts.


In todays grouped non-vis jedi system I still occasionally use both toons and bf pets, I do group with them though it's easier to see ham. Vis is still null.


Your safe from pets and droids too since its the same code just different skins, I used droids during the grind too, its a rumor too. NPC droids could be a different case altogether though becareful.


There is a ton of vis rumors. yes even on the jedi guides, they leave them there because its better to be safe than sorry lol.

** Edited to add

Even if pets are not grouped but the ch is, no vis I have done this too a bunch of times and never have been outed on the terminals. Unfortunatly those jedi probably won't believe you do to the fact of forced pvp and a paraniod envirement for them. jedi are not an alpha class as they once were, they may look cool but untill the templates finished they are baby cows and the veal wagon is coming.

Message Edited by jopenack on 10-19-2005 09:28 AM



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SioBabble
Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:01 am
#5

Pets are entities.


Entities do not cause visiblity.


Characters DO cause visiblity.


To confirm this, pass your cursor over dots on the radar, the information displayed will include if the dot is an entity or a character.






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SioBabble
Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:11 am
#6






jopenack wrote:



Even if pets are not grouped but the ch is, no vis I have done this too a bunch of times and never have been outed on the terminals. Unfortunatly those jedi probably won't believe you do to the fact of forced pvp and a paraniod envirement for them. jedi are not an alpha class as they once were, they may look cool but untill the templates finished they are baby cows and the veal wagon is coming.


Message Edited by jopenack on 10-19-2005 09:28 AM




This is absolutely true. Paranoia is a Jedi trait. Any dot approaching, any color, on a grinding group, is a danger, first for visiblity, and secondly that it might be a BH with YOUR mission.


The other day Sio was returning a non-CH pet he had trained to a guildie who is a Jedi. The guildie was spin group grinding with other Jedi on Tatooine. Since I've got a Jedi toon as well now I know the rule, and very quickly anyone who grinds in a group with a Jedi in it learns it. You approach the group and stop 100m out and announce your presence. Which I did to my guildie.


But he wasn't fast enough on the keyboard to the other members of the group; I got a tell from one of them, "who have you come for". Now, Sio is an MBH/MCH, but he doesn't travel around in armor, he doesn't display a BH related tag (he's a Pack Master, my favorite CH tag), but because Sio usually has a scatter equipped, you can tell by looking at him that he's a BH. The Jedi in the grinding group could not see this; they AUTOMATICALLY assume (and to be honest, Tazz does too) that any player dot approaching them is a BH out for blood.


Only after they've looked at the character closely (check to see what the CL is, check the tag, /examine to determine what profession badges they have) do they let their guard down. It's the way you have to be when you're subject to an attack by a player at any time.






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Sio Babble MBH/MCH/Cabana Boy; master of Tyson, the GNORT OF DEATH

Jeffn Akbar Nerfed from here to Lok MD/MCM

Zanti Agaesia Bothan MBE, 12 point Master Chef, Havoc Squadron Ace pilot


jopenack
Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:55 am
#7

You know what I find really funny Sio


I've helped people grind in the spin group, been there and don't mind helpng. But many times the padawansare grinding away right next to the BH's grinding away. Both imp and reb alike. It's so funny I sit and look at them and think.


"You are all enemies and although don't realise it now, will soon be pitted against eachother".


Some realise it and openly say they wont hunt this guy or do that lol. Future jedi's try and convert one another as they become friends. reality is, looking at the path we have all come means most of them will be fighting eachother wether they want to or not lol.






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