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Thread: Creature levels: Elite pets? aww c'mon devs...

NnahOlos
Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:47 pm
#1

What is the deal with the "elite" pets? I mean sure, its nice to have a pet that has low level with high stats, but what about all the other pets? I just tamed a lvl 22 narg that has 7.7k health and a lvl 67 angler with 6.6k health. They both have the same damage(about). The angler has a slightly higher to hit and defense rating but other wise it is inferior to something less than 1/3 its lvl. Well, what good is the fricking lvl system then? I would like to know what they base the lvls off of. Doesn't CL stand for Chalenge Level? If that was the case then 2 creatures of the same level should be the same CHALENGE right? Well, let me tell ya, i can kill a lvl 82 bol with my eyes closed. Would i waste a lvl 82 Giant Dune Kimangola? Pfft, not without some serious tactics. They are the same LEVEL, but no where near the same CHALENGE.And howcan lesser bols range in level from 10 to 82? Are the level 10 three legged or something? Do they lack teeth?Anyway, backto elites. If you make elite pets that much stronger than the "normal" pets than who in their right mind would want a normal pet? I read somewheresomeone mentionthat if we had "elite" pets at all, they should be random spawns. i.e. a CL 22 fambaa had the same chance of spawning an elite asa lvl 22 narg. This sounds like a good ideas to me.I am trying to make a point here but i am quite tired. I hope you understand what i am trying to say


/rant off




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Loupgaroo
Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:36 pm
#2

good point



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Travin64068
Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:12 am
#3

Here's a question. Does the Angler have any armor? From what I can remember right now the Female Nargs do not. That could be the big difference. I know my poor nerfed GPS has armor, higher damage and lower HAM than the Nargs, but I'm willing to bet he can take quite a few more hits than my 3 Female Nargs combined. HAM doesn't make the pet, you have to look at all the attributes.


So your Angler may have 1100 HAM less, but in combat might take 1/4 the damage that a Female Narg does. I might have to test this today putting my Webmaster vs. Female Narglatch


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NnahOlos
Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:41 am
#4

How can you tell if they have armor? Anyway, here are the stats


Narg:Angler


Level 22 Level 67


health 7718 Health 6457


attack speed 2attack speed 2


to hit 71 to hit 162


defense 123 defense 162


damage 65-321 damage 96-388


I will duel them 1 on 1 when they are fully grown. It looks like the angler mightBARLEY get the upper hand.





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Weeeebang
Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:56 am
#5

wow... can you make your pets dual??



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theorb22
Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:08 am
#6

He might have 2 CH accounts and then he could duel them against each other.....





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hossp
Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:30 am
#7






NnahOlos wrote:

How can you tell if they have armor? Anyway, here are the stats


Narg:Angler


Level 22 Level 67


health 7718 Health 6457


attack speed 2attack speed 2


to hit 71 to hit 162


defense 123 defense 162


damage 65-321 damage 96-388


I will duel them 1 on 1 when they are fully grown. It looks like the angler mightBARLEY get the upper hand.








actually the angler has a BIG advantage..with over twice the to hit, and 15% more defense..and until pub 18 the armor stats are broken..supposedly there but we just can't see them...


you also have to remember the multipliers with the lvl system...you notice how you can hit a grey con for 2000 and a purple con for 300...well the narg would con grey to the angler..so if the system works as intended..if the pets duel, ungrouped with you..the angler will take much less damage and give a lot more then the narg...weather that actually happens i'm curious..please let us know





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NnahOlos
Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:35 am
#8






hossp wrote:





NnahOlos wrote:

How can you tell if they have armor? Anyway, here are the stats


Narg:Angler


Level 22 Level 67


health 7718 Health 6457


attack speed 2attack speed 2


to hit 71 to hit 162


defense 123 defense 162


damage 65-321 damage 96-388


I will duel them 1 on 1 when they are fully grown. It looks like the angler mightBARLEY get the upper hand.








actually the angler has a BIG advantage..with over twice the to hit, and 15% more defense..and until pub 18 the armor stats are broken..supposedly there but we just can't see them...


you also have to remember the multipliers with the lvl system...you notice how you can hit a grey con for 2000 and a purple con for 300...well the narg would con grey to the angler..so if the system works as intended..if the pets duel, ungrouped with you..the angler will take much less damage and give a lot more then the narg...weather that actually happens i'm curious..please let us know







Hmm, ok. Ill take your word for it about the angler. Ive only been a CH for a week. (no im not a respec). I hear that specials may also come in publish 18? That might make a difference too i guess. Heh, im contradicting myself now. I still support the random spawn for elites though. BTW, when grouped with me, their lvl does not matter for damage dealing does it?



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hossp
Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:27 am
#9

actually it should, as the pets SHOULD deal damage in accordance with your level, not theirs when grouped...but wheather that is reliable or not at this time is still up in the air..



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LeQeSai
Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:18 pm
#10

Here here!


I think that all creatures having a rare "elite" version would be a totally awesome thing.


This could make all pets viable and useful, even if people spend all their time looking for the elites they will not be restricted to like 8 or 9.



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