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Thread: why cant i heal my incapped pets ?

Yuno
Tue May 11, 2004 10:36 am
#1

CH 1100 currently and each time my pet gets incapped i have to store it.. and call again.. i cant heal it even if its NOT mind incapped..........


bugged ?

any advice ?



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Tycalibur
Tue May 11, 2004 10:47 am
#2

Is it a BE pet?



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Yuno
Tue May 11, 2004 10:48 am
#3

i tried 2 different.. got the problem with both


dunno if they are BE.... dont think they r though...





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Tycalibur
Tue May 11, 2004 10:53 am
#4

Did you tame them yourself or get them from a friend?


Some (not all) of the BE pets had (may still have) -- particularly mounts -- a heal 'lag'. You heal them for x amount of damage with your pet stims and the HAM does not indicate the damage has been healed for several minutes or until you pull it back out.


Are you saying when your pet goes down, and you heal it with a pet stim it STAYS down?


Are you getting a message "You heal <pet name> for <x> damage, and your pet still isn't getting up?


If that is the case, you might want to try submitting a bug report, I've only seen that happen once with one of my rancors in PvP when it got poisoned, diseased and KDed *grumbles under his breath about the combat rebalance, but won't get into any of that in this thread, as it would be off-topic*






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SioBabble
Tue May 11, 2004 10:53 am
#5






Yuno wrote:

CH 1100 currently and each time my pet gets incapped i have to store it.. and call again.. i cant heal it even if its NOT mind incapped..........


bugged ?

any advice ?







It's an ongoing bug introduced in pub 6 that the devs still have not addressed, although in my experience it's restricted to mount pets. I very, very rarely allow my pets to be incapped at all...I'd rather be incapped myself than risk them taking a vit hit viaa DB.


Nothing to do but store the pet and call it again.





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Yuno
Tue May 11, 2004 10:58 am
#6

it both were mount pets ...


and i tried to heal them with normal stim Es...


i get the messsage: you heal for blablabla.... but the pet stay down... if i try to heal again i get no msg but used a heal





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Tycalibur
Tue May 11, 2004 11:00 am
#7

Sounds like the BE mount heal bug.


Submit a bug report, make your voice heard. It's all you can do. And keep your eyes open on these forums.





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SioBabble
Tue May 11, 2004 11:02 am
#8






Yuno wrote:

it both were mount pets ...


and i tried to heal them with normal stim Es...


i get the messsage: you heal for blablabla.... but the pet stay down... if i try to heal again i get no msg but used a heal









Yup, I've seen the same thing on mounts. You can heal them, but the bars don't shift to reflect the heal. There is a delay, and when they're incapped, it's adelay that can't be overcome. I've stimmed them up with a B or C, or a CM AOE heal, and the bars don't move. When I have them do a trick, THEN the bars reflect the last stim heal, but the M bar doesn't move. Hit them with another heal, that one isn't shown, but the last M bar trick heal shows up then.


This doesn't happen with non-mount pets, btw...they behave normally.


Only thing to do is store them and call them back. With the autostoring bugs, sometimes you don't even need to do that.


Why can't they autostore just before they incap and get DBd? Huh? Why can't autostorig work to our advantage just once?





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Yuno
Tue May 11, 2004 11:10 am
#9

k


tx for your help



guess its time to buy some NON mounted pets then =)



any advice which one will be best to grind up ?


so far i used a dewi or a kaadu female on enraged rancors....






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kscottgee
Tue May 11, 2004 11:22 am
#10






Yuno wrote:

k


tx for your help



guess its time to buy some NON mounted pets then =)



any advice which one will be best to grind up ?


so far i used a dewi or a kaadu female on enraged rancors....










I used a Boar Wolf for grinding.



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SioBabble
Tue May 11, 2004 11:27 am
#11






kscottgee wrote:





Yuno wrote:

k


tx for your help



guess its time to buy some NON mounted pets then =)



any advice which one will be best to grind up ?


so far i used a dewi or a kaadu female on enraged rancors....










I used a Boar Wolf for grinding.



CL 25, 9000 HAM, 50% kinetic resist. He really took a pounding.







The boar wolf is the best midlevel tank in the game right now. Better than GSPs or CRCs.




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fantoq
Tue May 11, 2004 11:44 am
#12






Tycalibur wrote:

Sounds like the BE mount heal bug.


Submit a bug report, make your voice heard. It's all you can do. And keep your eyes open on these forums.








Thought it was all mounts, not just BE'd ones. Anyone verify this?I only use a BE mount in combat, never tried it with my bantha.



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Matsubaa
Tue May 11, 2004 1:11 pm
#13






Yuno wrote:

it both were mount pets ...


and i tried to heal them with normal stim Es...


i get the messsage: you heal for blablabla.... but the pet stay down... if i try to heal again i get no msg but used a heal







Yep. If your mount falls you'll heal it but the HAM doesn't update and it doesn't get back up until you've re-called it. If it hasn't incapped yet you can heal it and the HAM won't update until, in my experience, it leaves your field of view. If I turn away from it and then look back to it, it updates. Might just be one of those little superstitions based on coincidence though.


Strangely enough, my mount has been following me properly and taking heals for at least the past couple of days.


My theory is that mounts were mixed up in the code with vehicles which don't follow, can't be recovered from "incap", but also don't take commands. So when you give your mount a command it behaves like a pet, but when he's just idling he behaves as a vehicle should,doesn't heal, recover from incap or follow.





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