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Thread: interesting PvP damage info, joker's new pet damage formula confirmed
Message Edited by pugguh on 10-08-2005 04:55 PM
Message Edited by pugguh on 10-08-2005 06:20 PM
pugguh wrote:
oh and those old pets get no effect from training marring storm to them, does'ent work at all, no change to damage
Message Edited by pugguh on 10-08-2005 04:55 PM
Lord-R wrote:
pugguh wrote:
oh and those old pets get no effect from training marring storm to them, does'ent work at all, no change to damage
Message Edited by pugguh on 10-08-200504:55 PM
I am a Non-Ch. I do however have a non-ch BE pet.
By this last line here if i uderstand it correctly is telling me that
"i should get rid of my old BE pet and get a new one?" (snice the old BE pets wont benifit from the new abilitys?)
The last statement is wrong. I have BE kimo that converted to level 70 and yes I have applied marring storm twice and each time the damage has gone up noticeably. While my pre curb converted carrion spat does not I repeat does not hit for its minimum damage. Its range being 260 to 270.
So I think you need to modify your assertment. Some precurb be pets may not take marring storm while others do depending on how they converted. My suggestion is for you to use more creatures in your comparative analysis. For instance my pre curb spat or my precurb woolamander both have off the wall numbers. My woolamander level 55 for instance has 9330 health and my carrion spat has no regen at all.
I think you need to do a serious cataloging. Based on how pre curb the pet is how did said pet convert is it missing entire stat lines and so forth. Try to guess when the pet was converted into the new system. Remember there were atleast three different balance passes that we went through.
All I can say is my kimogilia was bought and tamed innovember and he was a level 40 I used him very little as he was a showpeice pet. Needless to say since he converted to level 70 I am useing him alot and enjoying him too. Imperiling feint on him just looks down right awesome. Though on some bounty marks his damage just was not up to it. Sometimes they out regenned his damage. So I made the call as he will not be a pvp pet to tank him up a bit. He now hasmarring storm L2 and hits a level 80 for over 200 points of damage whereas before he would hit for 179. Marring storm does work on pre curb pets.
pugguh wrote:
Lord-R wrote:
pugguh wrote:
oh and those old pets get no effect from training marring storm to them, does'ent work at all, no change to damage
Message Edited by pugguh on 10-08-200504:55 PM
I am a Non-Ch. I do however have a non-ch BE pet.
By this last line here if i uderstand it correctly is telling me that
"i should get rid of my old BE pet and get a new one?" (snice the old BE pets wont benifit from the new abilitys?)
I can only say that marring storm does not work, some of them do however, I have guild mates on bria that have trained some abilities to old pets and those function. marring storm however does not I have trained it to 2 old pre CU bio's and there was no change in damage on both.....
no change in the combat log or no change to the stats listed in the datapad
FlashDog wrote:
pugguh wrote:
Lord-R wrote:
pugguh wrote:
oh and those old pets get no effect from training marring storm to them, does'ent work at all, no change to damage
Message Edited by pugguh on 10-08-200504:55 PM
I am a Non-Ch. I do however have a non-ch BE pet.
By this last line here if i uderstand it correctly is telling me that
"i should get rid of my old BE pet and get a new one?" (snice the old BE pets wont benifit from the new abilitys?)
I can only say that marring storm does not work, some of them do however, I have guild mates on bria that have trained some abilities to old pets and those function. marring storm however does not I have trained it to 2 old pre CU bio's and there was no change in damage on both.....
no change in the combat log or no change to the stats listed in the datapad
either on both pets..no change what so ever
pugguh wrote:
either on both pets..no change what so ever
I'm very glad you said that. I know from personal experience that it does indeed change the damage listed in the datapad (i haven't tested it in the field.)
As to your testing, it does not take into account what it is supposed to: The opponent's defense. Versus an opponent with high defense, the damage will be on the lower end of the range (which in the case of pre-cu BE pets would be disproportionately high). Versus an opponent with low defense, the damage would be on the higher end of the range (clearly in this case, post-cu BE pets would have the advantage.)
In PVP situations, the opponent will invariably have much higher defense. Thus pre-cu pets, with their tight damage ranges, will consistently outperform post-cu pets.