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Asteroids

Thu Mar 25, 2004 12:23 pm

I logged in my CH for the first time in months and it seems alot of changes have been made since then.

Basically I have a datapad full of the usual suspects at the time, a rancor, gurreck, several graul maulers, grand wrix, GSP, and different varieties of the mereks. What I want to know now as I know some of the stats have changed, I noticed the mauler no longer has armor and has reduced kinetic, is if these pets are considered rubbish now compared to what is currently available either as new tamable pets (including rares) and BE pets. As these are mainly the changes I'm concerned about. What do CH's use these days?

SioBabble

Thu Mar 25, 2004 12:29 pm

#2

Asteroids wrote:

What do CH's use these days?

70%+ composite armor, heavy doc buffs, and crates of vasarian brandy.

Like everyone else.

Our meatshields are not what they once were.

Message Edited by SioBabble on 03-25-2004 11:29 AM

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Ryyger

Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:30 pm

#3

Wokka wrote:

SioBabble wrote:
Wokka,
And yes, as cruel as it sounds, I usually get tells like this:
"Hey we need you and your pets, we're about to go do something stupid"
Wokka-wokka

Would you mind if I put that in my sig? That's just insane giggle-bait.

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Mori-Mori

Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:06 pm

#4

I find that the pets that still have armor are still as good as they ever were, kinda. (I recently came back to the game and a sackfull of nerfed pets, too, so I know how it feels.) I still use my gurreck and merek (and would use my riverside sulfur mynock if it matched up with something else). I think you'll want to get at least one pair of armored 35ish pets from a BE, though. They will be almost as good as you think they should be.

redheady47

Thu Mar 25, 2004 9:02 pm

#5

I'm killing krayts, elders, anddark jedi knights solo fairly quickly. The "nerfs" balanced the class very nicely and as long as you can intimidate for your pets on the higher end stuff they have no problem tanking.

My o

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Wokka

Fri Mar 26, 2004 1:01 am

#6

SioBabble wrote:

Asteroids wrote:

What do CH's use these days?

70%+ composite armor, heavy doc buffs, and crates of vasarian brandy.

Like everyone else.

Our meatshields are not what they once were.

Message Edited by SioBabble on 03-25-2004 11:29 AM

I think he was talking about what pets they use, not what the character itself wears. But myself, I don't wear armor, I drink brandy, and swing a scythe. and no buffs, I've strived to not depend on them. My pets still mainly tank and if I don't get sloppy I can do quite well.

I still use my webmaster and mereks. My graul will probably become dog food soon cause its just takin up space. I made a nice puppy with light armor and resists. Nowadays BE pets are where its at, not only for higher stats, but because you can vary the levels to get a nice compliment for multi-pet callers. The other concern now is also small (in size, not CL) pets that can fight and not get in the way like grauls and rancors do, and make dungeon crawling much easier.

Also, beware of the pet centering itself on you whenever you move. Makes targetting almost impossible and makes it hard to see as well. I'm really thinking the devs got tired of seeing everyone with GSP's and made that particular pet rather annoying as well as weaker in all stats in order to thwart its use.

Wokka-wokka

SioBabble

Fri Mar 26, 2004 1:07 am

#7

Wokka,

I should have used the sarcasm tags.

With nearly invulnerable armor and doc/chef buffs, CH no longer has a role in PvE play, where it once was prominent.

Meatshields are no longer either required or desirable.

Tazz vonMannstein Baron-Administrator of Corellia, master navigator of Corellia, captain of the Gregarious Gurreck

Sio Babble MBH/MCH/Cabana Boy; master of Tyson, the GNORT OF DEATH

Jeffn Akbar Nerfed from here to Lok MD/MCM

Zanti Agaesia Bothan MBE, 12 point Master Chef, Havoc Squadron Ace pilot

Spazzers

Fri Mar 26, 2004 1:37 am

#8

You can pick up any combat skills and do much better than you will with animals. As a non-creature handler you can buy a CL10 animal with 10K HAM from a BE which makes novice CH completely pointless anyway.No skill points required. Here is a great example:

My account is set to expire soon, so here's my recipe (from memory, so might have a mistake):

Gen1 - filters out all but kinetic resists = teen level pet with modest kinetic resist and ham

Merek harvester

voritor dasher

arachne warrior

Gen 2 - low 20s pet with armor, high ham and kinetic resist only (I've gotten as low as lvl 14 armored pet with careful experimentation)

merek harvester

gen1

merek harvester

Gen 3 - non-ch pet, lvl 2-10 with 8-10k HAM, 40-60 kinetic resists

gen2

yard trash (kaduu, womp rat, whatever)

yard trash

Makes high ham, high kinetic resist pets. The other resistances are all vulnerables, and the to hit and attack speed are awful. The low 20's level pets are good forarmored trios for a master ch.

Enjoy.

I copied this off the BE forum. I've been trying to get the message out that the new pet check doesn't work. It declares 2K HAM CL10 animals invalid and reduces their HAM to 900. Animals described above however work just fine. Its become a complete joke now and no seems overly concerned about it. BE's are posting their recipes forfreaks because the normals don't work anymore. I've stopped complaining about it. These are the animals I'll end up having to make. Want a nice cu pa?

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Wokka

Fri Mar 26, 2004 1:46 am

#9

SioBabble wrote:

Wokka,

I should have used the sarcasm tags.

With nearly invulnerable armor and doc/chef buffs, CH no longer has a role in PvE play, where it once was prominent.

Meatshields are no longer either required or desirable.

Well, I'll agree that CH's are less desirable by many, but I'll hold that they still serve a great purpose, whether it is just to catch low level pets for your non-ch friends, or to provide a tank that will outlive any player in a big attack. Or to allow you to live by putting your pet on a creature and running, then calling the pet when you are far enough away. Pets don't charge you 8k to get them high ham and tank for you. They can also take any poison and disease and make light of it, whereas any player would have considerable downtime, but usually recover with the help of doctors and medics.

I still liked CH even when everyone called nerf. It's become part of all my characters and as others dabble in it, they find themselves wanting it more and more but not able to afford all the points for it. My pets save the lives of my friends without questioning me, and they save my hide too, lol.

And yes, as cruel as it sounds, I usually get tells like this:

"Hey we need you and your pets, we're about to go do something stupid"

Wokka-wokka

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