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Thread: Numbers on bleeding attack L1 vs. L2?
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sciguyCO
Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:30 pm
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Well, I've been testing out the results of some L2 abilities I've picked up, and was wondering if it conforms wtih anyone else.
I have a CL 12 wrix that I've been using off and on, and figured he'd make a good test subject. With bleeding attack L1, grouped, against creatures of my level, bleed woulddo between 50 and 64 (depending on whether the target was armor broken, knocked down, feinted, etc) per tick for two ticks. After training the wrix bleeding attack L2, and teaching a voice command for that ability (using the same command as I had for L1) the results were exactly the same.
On the off chance that the L1 bleed command was still triggering the L1 ability, I trained a new command for bleed attack L2, but that didn't make any difference.
I suppose it's possible that the power difference between L2 and L1 is small enough that it got rounded out (although that'd mean less than 2% increase between L1 and L2). Has anyone tested this on a more powerful pet and seen any increase in the damage-per-tick? What about more ticks? Can I expect any improvement with L3?
JMShunter
Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:13 pm
#2
my bleed attack 2 does like 20 points more damage then 1 (I think)
is it possible to put a pet bleed and a player bleed on somoene at the same time?
Roguestar
sciguyCO
Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:15 pm
#3
Is that comparing L1 and L2 on the same creature (or two identical creatures)? How much damage are they doing? Maybe I need to do a store and recall...
And it does look like you can apply multiple bleeds. I've had a bleed from my pet and myself on teh same target at the same time. there's only the one icon, but the combat spam shows the "causes X amount of bleeding damage" from both sources.
valetman
Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:54 am
#4
sciguyCO wrote:Is that comparing L1 and L2 on the same creature (or two identical creatures)? How much damage are they doing? Maybe I need to do a store and recall...And it does look like you can apply multiple bleeds. I've had a bleed from my pet and myself on teh same target at the same time. there's only the one icon, but the combat spam shows the "causes X amount of bleeding damage" from both sources.
from my observations, the bleed strength seems to be affected more by the level disparity between the target and the pet than the level.
By that , I mean that as in your example, the fact the pet is so many levels lower than the mob (I know its grouped with you, but the accuracy etc bonuses are somewhat insignificant in this from what I see, they merely mitigate the level damage multipliers) means that even with bleed 2 , you arent seeing an increase.
Id be interested to see the numbers on an ungrouped pet against mobs the same level as it, its something I shall try if I can over the next couple of days.
I havent yet seen any reason to use training slots to increase an ability from level 1 to 2, on any ability, which is a severe problem really, and makes spending the time to learn the level 2 and 3 pointless.
I know for definate my kd level 2, intim level 2 hit no more often than the level 1's , and the marring storm seems to be such a small increase on the second level it is a waste of a slot.
Zutan
Sun Sep 11, 2005 6:49 am
#5
My "bleeding attack 2" that is on a tamed burrg type from Endor does more dmg than my BH Torso shot does for bleed. I dont recall the exact number but I believe it was over 80 dmg.
theorb22
Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:05 am
#6
2 ticks of a 50 point bleed doesn't sound very useful even if it does stack....
soulsyphon
Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:07 pm
#7
yes but look at it this way if your hitting something with bleeds keep hitting them it does stack in 60 sec there taking 1500 damge from bleeds if the pets attacks every 2 sec, in 2 mins you pretty much have removed any chance of healing recovery
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