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Thread: Taming Vicious and Wild Creatures???

Seratt
Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:37 pm
#1

Hi,


Can anyone explain to me how these two skills work, taming vicious and wilid creatures ? I assumed I knew how they worked until I got my first Graul at CL35 and ch at 2224 atm. I have to wear a +5vic/wild taming shirt so I can call him right now.


I assume I need the extra vicious taming to be able to control him, but even at my level with the shirt that only adds up to +15/+35 vicious/wild WITH the shirt.


Since the creature is CL35, is there another hidden number somewhere that I'm not aware of?


Does my wild taming level have to be equal or greater to that of the CL of the graul since he is an aggresive animal ? If so how can people at master CH pull out two CL 35 rancors at the same time. Do they have tapes that bring them up to 70 for wild and or vicious ?


Thanks and sorry if the question is a bit confusing.



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fubar2150
Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:18 pm
#2

Great answer, wish I knew how to give you a 5 star rating



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fubar2150
Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:21 pm
#3

huh? I didn't put those there



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fubar2150
Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:22 pm
#4

how thick could I be to not see the "rate this message bit"?



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Seiryuu
Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:06 pm
#5

A little more information:

The +tame vicious modifier that lets you tame an aggressive creature is not completely equivalent to the CL of the creature. The tamable CL is 15-20 above the modifier number, although I have not had any desire to dump my skills to find out exactly what it is below master.

In order to tame a creature, you must have at least a 15% chance of success. Further, there seems to be a bug where the control is two less than the tame chance (judging from master Creature Handlers that can tame CL 65 but only call CL 63). You were on the boarder of that so your clothes make up the difference.



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Asheesh
Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:51 pm
#6

Seiryuu,


As an MCH I have and useCL70, CL67BE Rancors and a pair of CL67 Kimos as the situation requires. I have not encountered the CL65/CL63 limits you refer to. As I understand it there are no wildbabies withgreater then CL65 so no one has been able to test the ability of wild taming greater then CL65. Is this what you are referring to? Bull Rancors are CL65, highly sought after pets due to rarity so I know they can be tamed and used.



Asheesh



Asheesh
Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:36 am
#7

Max Level of Pets determines whatlevel of pet you canuse. You must have sufficient Max Level to call and use a creatureofwhatever type, aggro or non-aggro


Taming Wild determines your chance of taming any non-aggro species baby such as a Mountain Dewback or a Kaadu.


Taming Vicious determines your chance of taming any aggro species such as Mountain Squill or Rancors. You MUST have at least some Taming Vicious to even begin to try taming an aggro type creature. The higher this number is the more likely you will have success. Some creatures are pointless to attempt to tame unless you are a Master due to their high modifiers (resistance) to taming.



Hope that helps,


Asheesh Ahssin


Galahede
Tue Mar 30, 2004 4:04 am
#8






Seiryuu wrote:
A little more information:

The +tame vicious modifier that lets you tame an aggressive creature is not completely equivalent to the CL of the creature. The tamable CL is 15-20 above the modifier number, although I have not had any desire to dump my skills to find out exactly what it is below master.

In order to tame a creature, you must have at least a 15% chance of success. Further, there seems to be a bug where the control is two less than the tame chance (judging from master Creature Handlers that can tame CL 65 but only call CL 63). You were on the boarder of that so your clothes make up the difference.





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ArmAvan
Tue Mar 30, 2004 4:29 am
#9

What I don't understand is that at MCH I can call a CL 65 Bull Rancor, but only with my +25/+25 wild/vicious clothing on (yet I can still control him when I remove the clothing, but that's not my point here). Where is the "ferocity" modifier which determines this and whatis the upper limit? Theoretically, a BE could make a CL 70, that is so ferocious even the clothing bonus is insufficient, yes?



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Seiryuu
Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:37 am
#10

Asheesh, are you a Wookiee? They naturally have a +10 to both taming skills so the aggressive limits do not affect them.

If not, are you wearing any +tame clothing or armor? Because a few months ago at least, a non-Wookiee could not call an aggressive pet over CL 63. Take the clothes off and try to call your pets.

If you are neither a Wookiee nor wearing clothes, then maybe this was fixed and they did not bother to tell us. Which would be sad, because they could use the positive PR.



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Seratt
Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:00 am
#11

thanx for replying all. Think I get the jist of it all now.



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