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Thread: ... wot am I doin wrong? :(

black-eye
Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:39 am
#1

... hello fellow CHs,


Im a veteran player of SWG and mastered the CH prof alrdy two times within the last 18 month.... so now after doin a lot of other stuff I wanted to get my beloved first choice profession back and the new system seemed to be a nice bonus to....


.... so i grinded a bit xp with my varactyl in combat and it got a lot of training points and slots but no specials, guess coz its a SOE given mount and may be trained but has none. I deceided to get some wild ones, had a look on swgcreatures.com and then scouted a bit and tamed a few pets.


today i went on grinding in combat and most time i used my crimson razor cat, i grinded over 1 million CH xp with it, the pet grew a fair bit and got around 70 training points and 4 slots..... but no single ability yet, or even a maturity level.


wot does this mean? as i understodd the system it works like this:


U can train any pet any ability if the pet gained enough pet xp, ie training points and slots


U can only train abilites that u have self, ie u learned them from a wild pet


U can only learn abilities from a wild tamed pet if the pet has gained a certain "level" ( maturity level ) from using it in combat


...... so if this is right, why did I grind over 1 million points of xp with the pet and my "CH Weapon" is still as n00bish as it was when I tamed it? Its only CL 24, if i think about this and lets say i wanna train out a rancor or a higher creature and first need to work out some attacks while using other creatures this would mean ID have to grind lets say around 10 millions of CH xp ( ie the time that it would cost to get 10 millions of CH xp as I know CH xp and pet xp isnt really related to each other ) to make my pet a decent weapon?


this would be kinda stupid eh? I mean, every other profession just goes out, buys a wep and uses it with the specials u gain from the profession... no BH needs to craft his onw weps or needs to leran special shots from looted weapons.... dont misunderstand me, I think this is a really nice new system with a great potential to make petsreal usefull and powerfull in combat..... Im only asking myself if it really takes this long time as it seems to me atm, I dont wanna grind the ammount of xp for MCH 10 times just to learn an ability from a pet to train this to another pet that i first need to grind out so it gains training points and slots.....


so, long text, short sense...... did I understand this right all, or am I missing something important? when will my crimson razor cat be able to show some abilities so i can train those to other pets?


thx for u time to read this and thx for ur answers



///black-eye - deadly nerfed lizard///
Agock_Onie
Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:53 am
#2

Pets that have Specials that you can learn will have them the instant you tame them.


If you tamed a Crimson Razor and it didn't show any specials in your datapad, it never will...until you teach them to it.


Basically, go and tame all the critters you can find, some are bound to have specials.





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black-eye
Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:49 am
#3

umm, I thought the instant show of abilities would be only for the Innate ones, not the triggered........ and swgcreatures.com lists crimson razor with with L1 Bleeding Attack and L2 Panicked Rage......


so I now found another thread that told the number of kills would make the difference, not the xp.... they said about killing 700 mobs to get access to L1 ability of the certain pet.....


any1 any suggestions? I mean, it cant be that one crimson cat has those abilities while another has none or? would be kinda stupid..... also I tamed a few other critters too ( fambaa, rogue fambaa, grand wrix, peko peko, huurton pup ) and none of them shows any ability yet, tho all are listed with 0ne to three abilities on swgcreatures.com....


Im kinda lost.....





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Amethyst-Moonshadow
Sun Sep 04, 2005 10:12 am
#4




black-eye wrote:

umm, I thought the instant show of abilities would be only for the Innate ones, not the triggered........ and swgcreatures.com lists crimson razor with with L1 Bleeding Attack and L2 Panicked Rage......


so I now found another thread that told the number of kills would make the difference, not the xp.... they said about killing 700 mobs to get access to L1 ability of the certain pet.....


any1 any suggestions? I mean, it cant be that one crimson cat has those abilities while another has none or? would be kinda stupid..... also I tamed a few other critters too ( fambaa, rogue fambaa, grand wrix, peko peko, huurton pup ) and none of them shows any ability yet, tho all are listed with 0ne to three abilities on swgcreatures.com....


Im kinda lost.....






SWGCreatures has the crimson cat listed with those abilities because it's been known to have them when tamed. Everytime you tame a pet, it has the CHANCE to already have an innate ability. When you tame something, to find out if it has an innate ability already, open your datapad and select the newly tamed pet. Look at its stats on the left, and scroll down to the bottom of its stats. If you see


Abilities: Bleeding Attack L1 (for example)


at the bottom of its stats, then that pet has an innate ability that you can learn from it after fighting with it for awhile. Sometimes it takes 700ish kills to learn the ability, sometimes it takes 100, sometimes it takes 6, sometimes it takes 3000. There's no set number or method, all we really know is that you have to fight with the pet for a bit and get xp with the pet to learn the ability.


Bottom line: notevery crimson cat baby that you tame will have Bleeding Attack or Panicked Rage. There's only a CHANCE that it MIGHT have one of those abilities. That's just how it works.


If a newly tamed pet does not show an innate ability in your datapad when you first tame it, it will never suddenly have an innate ability. Due to the fact that whether or not a tamed pet has an innate ability or not is random.


Check out This Stickyon these forums for more detailed info on how it works - hope this helps! Good luck






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Agock_Onie
Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:06 am
#5






black-eye wrote:

umm, I thought the instant show of abilities would be only for the Innate ones, not the triggered........ and swgcreatures.com lists crimson razor with with L1 Bleeding Attack and L2 Panicked Rage......


so I now found another thread that told the number of kills would make the difference, not the xp.... they said about killing 700 mobs to get access to L1 ability of the certain pet.....


any1 any suggestions? I mean, it cant be that one crimson cat has those abilities while another has none or? would be kinda stupid..... also I tamed a few other critters too ( fambaa, rogue fambaa, grand wrix, peko peko, huurton pup ) and none of them shows any ability yet, tho all are listed with 0ne to three abilities on swgcreatures.com....


Im kinda lost.....








Actually, that's exactly what it is. I have trained 100+ humbabas...of that I would say 30% had either vigorous health or beastly constitution. The rest had nothing. Of the 10 or so Wrixes I tamed, one had marring storm. The rest nothing. I got bleed off of a vynock. ALL OF THESE SPECIALS ARE FOUND THE INSTANT OF TAME. The post you are referring to about kills being the key is about LEARNING THE SPECIALS YOUR PET ALREADY HAS SO YOU CAN TEACH THEM TO OTHER PETS.


Go out and tame a whole pile of one creature, you will find some have a special some won't. Some creatures never seem to have specials. (I have yet to find a special on a durni). If you read the rest of the posts, you will some that say there are correlations with certain specials. I find that pets that have either vigorous health or beastly constitution, will almost always be capable of having the other. (Humbabas, Pickets)


Sorry to break it to you both, but repeated kills with a pet with no immediately obvious skills will never yield a skill.



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black-eye
Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:42 pm
#6

hmm, sounds even worse then I thought it could be lol


well, my great respect for the patience to tame 100+ humbabas, I personally would never do this or become insane while doing.... especially I cant imagine to find 100+ critters of smae species out there somewhere.... to find a single grand wrix baby was difficult enough tho I found a lot of spawns and lairs.....


however, im nearly MCH now and just got frenzied assault of a pet, so at least I got one special to teach to others.... will go on a bit and see if i can get used too.... but still I think its kinda odd to have those loads of pet xp to grind to work out ur pet to be able to train it some custom specials.... how long did it last for u to skill out a decent MCH pet.... lets say a bull rancor or something at this level?


well at least i like scouting and looking for babies and in this way i now have a reason to tame just everything, no matter if of use or not...





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