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Thread: Looking for Positive input...

Louannarchy
Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:37 am
#1


Hi,


I'm looking for inputs on what came out positive about this last patch. I hunted for a few hours last nite with my pets and noticed the game content has changed in the way we do business. I realize what is "not" working... so I really dont need inputs on that, and I can also clearly see from reading all the previous posts. I'm really disheartened at the pub20 patch, and I'm searching for a reason to stay MCH. I'm not a collector of rares, and I only use my pets to hunt by my side. If anyone has any positive input that is truly helpfull... please post. This is what I'm planning on trying before I turn in my keys to the cages...


When I was doin lairs last nite... solo... I noticed most of my missions that the initial and first wave ofcreatures came in 3's. I was using a cl70pet and had a hard time with crowd control. My 70 can solo, tank, and kill at least 1x cl82 beast in a 1vs1 situation leaving me to dispatch the other 2 that usually attacked me. That is not where I want to be thou. My plan is to make, (my alt is a BE), 3x cl23 pets with high ham/decent damage to engage all 3 creatures individually. I know this can be done with the 3-Fem nargs now, but the wild pets dont impress me much, and I'm sure I can make a bio pet pretty similiar. 3 seperate sets of commands for each pet will work, I've done this before precu and it was easy to manage them like this. As we dust off the beast one by one I will double up and finally triple up my pets on the beasts to finish them off. Some of you have probably tried this with your fem-nargs and not sure how successfull this was, but I'm gonna give it a shot with bio pets.


If anyone has another solution or idea that has worked for them... please post. No consolation posts, negative inputs, or "been there - done that" responses without a solution posted please. Just lookin for a different way of doin business. Thanks.



Louannarchy Lade'Iam - Planet Vagabond
Luu' Fuu - Struggling Combatant
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Slardek
Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:14 pm
#2



You wanted something positive so I thought I'd post. I haven't tried tackling any high end mobs yet, but decided to see what would happen with kimos on Lok. I discovered my pets seem to be much tougher now than pre-20. I attacked a CL78 kimo hatchling with my CL47 Graul(9000 health), my CL22 Female Narg, and my CL30 R3 droid. I'm a CL80 MRM/MCH/NCM. After using a few conceal shots and healing myself a bunch, I managed to kill the kimo hatchling without my pets getting so much as a scratch. I mean, all 3 were at full health. I then attacked a regular kimo and had him down to 1/4 health when he finally killed me. Pre-20 I would have lost my droid and my Femal Narg before reaching this point, but last night I believe all of my pets were still up and fighting even after I was slain. After I was killed the kimo warped back to its spawn point and my pets did not give chase, which was a good thing.


I hope this post was positive enough for ya.

Hardley
Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:17 pm
#3






Slardek wrote:



You wanted something positive so I thought I'd post. I haven't tried tackling any high end mobs yet, but decided to see what would happen with kimos on Lok. I discovered my pets seem to be much tougher now than pre-20. I attacked a CL78 kimo hatchling with my CL47 Graul(9000 health), my CL22 Female Narg, and my CL30 R3 droid. I'm a CL80 MRM/MCH/NCM. After using a few conceal shots and healing myself a bunch, I managed to kill the kimo hatchling without my pets getting so much as a scratch. I mean, all 3 were at full health. I then attacked a regular kimo and had him down to 1/4 health when he finally killed me. Pre-20 I would have lost my droid and my Femal Narg before reaching this point, but last night I believe all of my pets were still up and fighting even after I was slain. After I was killed the kimo warped back to its spawn point and my pets did not give chase, which was a good thing.


I hope this post was positive enough for ya.





This may be a silly question but you basicly said the pets were not taking damage, were the pets doing damage to the Kimo?

Message Edited by Hardley on 07-20-2005 01:18 PM



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Slardek
Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:22 pm
#4

I can't be positive they were dealing damage, but they were in combat with it and it did seem to die rather quickly. I can check my combat logs if you'd like to make certain. That is a good question.
dfetch
Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:35 pm
#5

I've been soloing Gorax pretty easily as Rifleman/MCH/Pistoleer 0004. Peko peko albratrosses are downright easy, just harder to find. Occasionally, I run into trouble because of roots and snares not sticking, but the pets have been working. I usually usea bio kimo, rancor or razor cat. Wish they did more damage, but they help. I mastered CH post-CU so I don't really have a frame of reference for what CH was like pre-CU.


Spazzers
Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:35 pm
#6






Slardek wrote:
I can't be positive they were dealing damage, but they were in combat with it and it did seem to die rather quickly. I can check my combat logs if you'd like to make certain. That is a good question.





That was a very good question. From the little I've seen, if an animal attacks me my pets just stand and watch. If I have my animal attack first, then they will fight but of course that means the critter's family is attacking me.


Something positive may be in the 3 animal set up. Unfortunately I don't see this being useful for high end animals but here is the idea. Give each pet a different attack command and create a /tellpet macro for each attack in your tool bar. Target one critter and /tellpet the first pet to attack. Target another critter (be quick because this critter is coming after you about now) and tell the second pet to attack. Target another critter (if you're not dead yet) and tell the third pet to attack. Again, you won't be able to do this with highend mobs. You'd be dead by now, and of course your three pets are attacking 1vs1. A CL23 narg on a CL80 is death in the making. See if your animals will take out the three animals, leaving you with back up duty since there are only 3 animals in the mob.


Not to be negative but, I fear the first pet will attack the first critter just fine. The second and third pets become spectators because the rest of the mob is already in attack mode against you. Again, from the little I've seen, a pet won't attack if the critter is attacking something/someone else already. I hope I'm wrong about this however.




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Louannarchy
Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:09 pm
#7


The "Hate System" and the 3 pet thing should work.

High end mobs are business as usual.

My main concern is doin missions and lairs for creature resources. I'll post in a couple weeks when I get my pets grown and see what they do.



Louannarchy Lade'Iam - Planet Vagabond
Luu' Fuu - Struggling Combatant
Luu'Anne Love -Botched transfered character
Hardley
Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:37 am
#8

Well, look at the past publishes ... it seems that for CH at least, the nerf bats are always swinging for the fence at each publish. And, I complain, then play a little, then read the forums a little, then figure out a little something that minimizes one of the nerfs, then read something that another CH has posted that is a workaround to another nerf, and ... well, it seems that even after the nerfs, you can still figure out how to play CH and have it fun. At least I can. And one other thing about the CH group ... I don't think that anyone figures out a little trick and says "I'm gonna keep this to myself!". It more like "Holy cow, I gotta post this and see what the rest of the community says!"



The execution date is set ... the tortured screams of tens of thousands of beloved pets and their masters will resonate throughout the galaxies ... cover your ears and cry!

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2000m outside Mos Eisley on Tatooine /way 1893 -6057
Hardley Workin & Hydan Seek propritors

Hardley Workin: August 17, 2003-November 16, 2005 R.I.P.
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theorb22
Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:58 am
#9

Well, the thing of this nerf is, we still have the same power against single targets. Now, i've seen pics of at least one guy who could pick off single black suns with his narglatches, but then again, he was using some powerful hard-hitting specials and pet heals......I suppose we could try and find some sort of solo NPC that drops good loot that CH can kill off easily, but other than that, I can't think of many other uses for CH in PvE right now.





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Meuw
Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:45 am
#10

I have a positive for you friend, so you can sleep better now...here goes.....I saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to GE.....you get the idea.



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Aerontako_Shretalon
Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:42 am
#11


I don't use any combat professions, but I can rely pretty good on my CL70 Bol. Was able to have him kill a CL70 Bull Rancor, without healing him,and still have more than half health hisleft over. He was more than an equal for the CL75 Malkoc and could take on a flock of Reptilial Fliers.


His statistics aren't the best, but I've learned a few BE strategies that may help me create the perfect Bol!


/laugh miniacly


/shout It's allive!

Message Edited by Aerontako_Shretalon on 07-21-2005 06:43 AM

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