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Thread: Master Dancer > Master CH ???

Farenheit
Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:32 am
#1

Ok need some help understanding a few things, and i could be wrong on some points here.


As I understand it, with publish 7 "battle droids" as people call them will be set forth. As I also understand it they will be CL10. Now, commom wisdom says hey! that's ok, I have pet's way greater than this. However, this is not the whole picture.


A bio can take a "battle droid" and stack modules in them (up to four i think) that will essentially make them near as powerful as an ATST. I was discussing with some guild members last night who said this is true, but those will be expensive and not EVERY ONE will have one. To that I say BULL! Seems most most dedicated crafter professions swim in cash. And Master Dancers make obscene amounts of cash as well.


So, what we shall have in essense, is a class (master dancer) whom can macro their way to master in just a few days (Ch cant even dream of that) then build up the cash, purchase a droid for a million credits. Then head off to dantooine or pvp and be MORE effective than a Master CH whom took for the average player a month or more to master. (in my case, i'm still working on it three months into it, thanks to the nerf!)


So I guess the point I'm trying to make is: 1) why did they bother doing the pet nerf a couple publishes ago, when now non ch classes can buy uber droids?


2) what is the point of being CH now? Do we or will we be getting something to offset this? Yes we can also buy a droid, but come on! months of xp'ing to just maybe have two droids out? That's somethign special..........


3) Can we drop the CH xp nerf at least? Seeing now as classes that are not combat intended can be as powerful as a master ch, with justa few credits spent.


4) To that troll with the insults in the sig, Dont bother, I dont care what you have to say.


Thanks for the responses in advance, as I said to at the front of this post, I may have many facts wrong here, and your insite would be helpful.



1) Nerfed by the CU - Annoyed

2) SWG destroyed by the NGE - Pisssed

3) Cancellation to nerf the dev's pay check, priceless!!
Cidem_Relaeh
Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:34 am
#2


Farenheit wrote:
Ok need some help understanding a few things, and i could be wrong on some points here.
As I understand it, with publish 7 "battle droids" as people call them will be set forth. As I also understand it they will be CL10. Now, commom wisdom says hey! that's ok, I have pet's way greater than this. However, this is not the whole picture.
A bio can take a "battle droid" and stack modules in them (up to four i think) that will essentially make them near as powerful as an ATST. I was discussing with some guild members last night who said this is true, but those will be expensive and not EVERY ONE will have one. To that I say BULL! Seems most most dedicated crafter professions swim in cash. And Master Dancers make obscene amounts of cash as well.
So, what we shall have in essense, is a class (master dancer) whom can macro their way to master in just a few days (Ch cant even dream of that) then build up the cash, purchase a droid for a million credits. Then head off to dantooine or pvp and be MORE effective than a Master CH whom took for the average player a month or more to master. (in my case, i'm still working on it three months into it, thanks to the nerf!)
So I guess the point I'm trying to make is: 1) why did they bother doing the pet nerf a couple publishes ago, when now non ch classes can buy uber droids?
2) what is the point of being CH now? Do we or will we be getting something to offset this? Yes we can also buy a droid, but come on! months of xp'ing to just maybe have two droids out? That's somethign special..........
3) Can we drop the CH xp nerf at least? Seeing now as classes that are not combat intended can be as powerful as a master ch, with just a few credits spent.
4) To that troll with the insults in the sig, Dont bother, I dont care what you have to say.
Thanks for the responses in advance, as I said to at the front of this post, I may have many facts wrong here, and your insite would be helpful.





cart. horse.

patch isn't even on TC yet bro.



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ImdaREELjedi
Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:38 am
#3

something in the back of my mind doubts that any droid that powerful would remain anywhere near CL 10. secondly, no class will ever be as good of a tanking profession as MCH. however sometimes if you rely solely on MCH as a tank youll get passed by. third, ive still heard of people macroing to MCH in 3-4 days.



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Bufano - Chilastra
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Farenheit
Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:40 am
#4

I'd sure love to get ahold of that macro if true. Several months of xp (i'm not a "full time player) is enough...


And the person in my guild that is a bio said yes, they will be CL10 , just stack the modules... He was looking on some web page, maybe i can get the link from him.


Any one know more about this?





1) Nerfed by the CU - Annoyed

2) SWG destroyed by the NGE - Pisssed

3) Cancellation to nerf the dev's pay check, priceless!!
ImdaREELjedi
Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:45 am
#5

the person in your guild, who is a bio (i assume engineer) would know nothing about that, seeing as how A: the patch isnt live yet on any server, and B: is a bioengineer. droids dont even currently have a CL.



Ki'wo - Chilastra
Teras Kasi Master, Battlemaster, Aspiring Chef
Bufano - Chilastra
Master Architect, Master Bio-Engineer
Enegar
Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:54 am
#6

Face it, a cl 10 droid that is similar to an AT-ST will never make it live. Hell, they nerfed the real AT-STs. So I wouldn't worry.



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Soulforger
Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:59 am
#7

Well everyone on this thread so far is correct...


There will be battle droids, and there is no indication yet of how good/bad they will be, since they're not even on test yet.


However:
*Bio Engineer has nothing to do with this from what I've seen so far; there are droid engineer combat modules installed into a droid.
*A droid can have up to six combat modules, increasing the effectiveness of the combat droid.
*The devs have said many, many, many times that droids up to CL 10 can be no more powerful than creatures, otherwise it would be too unbalancing. Thus all the speculation of making a "Droid Commander" class; that idea got slashed because most people want more utility in droids instead of advanced combat droids (since we can't have both).


No one has even gone so far as making a comparison between a combat droid and an AT-ST (at least, no dev). If you choose not to take it from everyone in this thread, take a long hard look at all of the in-concept posts about droids. These (and any other dev responses) are where the real information is coming from; any further is speculation or inferance (and even the dev information is subject to change until it goes live).



-Accari (Rebel Warrant Officer II)

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2000 Commando

Mastered: Medic, Combat Medic, Pistoleer, Doctor, Dancer (Holo 1), Tailor (Holo 2, Silent), Entertainer, Artisan, Scout, Creature Handler, Teras Kasi Artist, Ranger, Marksman

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ScarletDancer
Mon Feb 23, 2004 5:23 pm
#8

The holo-grind craze basically killed the entertainment business. There may be a few wealthy master dancers out there, but not many. I have a CH alt that pays mybills.


The really wealthy folks are the armorsmiths and weaponsmiths.





"Purple Girls Have More Fun"
Farenheit
Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:13 pm
#9

I do realise that holo grinding killed the dancing profession mostly.


It was an example, mainly to illustrate that a non combat class should not be able to just buy their way into a combat prowess if you will, that takes another entire profession an insanely long time to get. It in essense would cheapen to an extreme degree the hard work and time that CH's have put into the class.







1) Nerfed by the CU - Annoyed

2) SWG destroyed by the NGE - Pisssed

3) Cancellation to nerf the dev's pay check, priceless!!
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