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Thread: Vert Jedi Mind Trick !?!?! Am outraged!
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DaBudo2
Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:32 am
#1
My rant...
Just read a post by Vert in The Can is Open Again... thread. Vert says: "Those are just the little ones. The big boy is Jedi Mind Trick that turns other players' pets rogue..."
The "Those" he is referring to are 2 other Jedi abilities - Animalcalm & Animalscare. If I'm understanding what these abilities do, then it is the most blatantly unfair system I've ever seen implemented in any game I've ever played.
What amazes me is that I've seen few comments (relatively speaking) about those abilities. Am I the only one who is outraged that another profession would be given that kind of power/control over us? It's bad enough that all -virtually ALL - of our pets are vulnerable to light saber (and what's up with that anyway!). But to let another profession CONTROL our pets??? Because that's sure what it sounds like. We might as well just start kowtowing to jedi now, because for all intents and purposes the devs are making jedi our masters.
Most of us are hoping that combat rebalance will once again make CH viable in PvP. Well, you can forget that because ifwe are part ofa raid where the opposing side has jedi then we are not just worthless we are actually dangerous to our own side.
I'm assuming that thesepet control abilities can only be used in PvP, but it makes me sick to think that jedi might be able to use those abilities whenever they want. Maybe it's only full jedi that have those abilities. I don't care. It doesn't matter if there is only one jedi. No profession should have those god-like powers over another profession.
Am I over reacting? I hope so. Why not just let jedi control/neutralize all weapons in the game - turn rifles against riflemen, pistols against pistoleers, etc.? That's what our pets are - our weapons. So, what the hell is going on here?
Vert, PLEASE, talk to the devs about this. This issue needs to be our next 19 Questions. If, in fact, these jedi abilities do what I've read they do, it's reprehensible.
BlindTyldak
Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:35 am
#2
Is it a definite that they can be used against player pets, or is that just theory?
KzinKiller
Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:35 am
#3
Item No. 2,042,632 on the "list of things we'd ask the devs to explain to CH's if they actually cared or listened"
LadyMalice
Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:01 am
#4
Seeing as how I don't pvp or jedi hunt, this doesnt realy effect me. It does however, effect CH in a big way. I think it is unfair for all pets to be LS vuln and then have the chance added that our pets can be turned against us. The original poster has a good point, our pets are our weapons...there are no other professions that have the chance of their weapons being turned against them, so why should we be singled out in such a way? All the talk abut "balancing" the game, yet this seems like a scale tipper in the balance issue department. They have already cut the heart out of our profession once, and now that Jedi seem to be the only worthy new content to the game, they make CH even more useless than it was.
Seems very unfair....I wish the devs would take a step back and realize not everyone is playing to be a Jedi, they have completely ignored or screwed up every other aspect of this game. All of the focus on the Jedi system they love and cherish so much will ultimately be what drives this game into the ground 
taloncard
Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:03 pm
#6
I have no problem with this.
As long as every other profession gets effected by it to. Yep that's right make every other weapon able to be turned on it'sowner by a jedi.
Or do the devs really want to totally destroy the CH profession. It's looking more and more like that.
Hey Red names, why don't you just deleate the profession, it would be a lot more painless than watching you slowly whittle away the little use we have left.
As long as every other profession gets effected by it to. Yep that's right make every other weapon able to be turned on it'sowner by a jedi.
Or do the devs really want to totally destroy the CH profession. It's looking more and more like that.
Hey Red names, why don't you just deleate the profession, it would be a lot more painless than watching you slowly whittle away the little use we have left.
BlindTyldak
Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:06 pm
#7
Exactly. If a Jedi could yank a weapon out of the hand of any other player and use it for full damage equal to the victim players skills, I would not be nearly as upset, since that is exactly what would happen to us. But that's very obviously not going to happen.
TsiyaAma
Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:08 pm
#8
/roar
/poke
The devs should just take out the Ch tree like they've been wanting to for about9 monthsnow...they might as well, most of us have given up all hope of fair treatment...adding this to the handicaps we already face in PvP is the last nail in the coffin of the CH profession. We are once again strictly limited to PvE. Once again they throw us a bone, andthere's a trap in it...
BULLROACH
Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:23 pm
#9
I believe that your opinions about this are a little overstated. In the SWG universe there are no animals that have Light Saber resists. Heck there are few SWG technologies that have Light Saber resists.
If you want to be able to kill a Jedi become one or become a Bounty Hunter. Better yet do what I am doing and get a Jedi buddy of yours to PVP with you and help you to find strategies that will help you in concert with your combat skill do better against the Jedi. I have a pet combo to go verses every combat profession in the game. Jedi is just a new one I have to add to the list.
Remember with your combat skill and the right pet choices you are still uber in combat. It is not a “give me” anymore. You have to be smart about it. Example: If you are dueling some ones Commando toon you use two Endorian Blood Seeker Mites. I love watching them scream that their flame and electric is not working. Remember fight smatter not harder.
If you want to be able to kill a Jedi become one or become a Bounty Hunter. Better yet do what I am doing and get a Jedi buddy of yours to PVP with you and help you to find strategies that will help you in concert with your combat skill do better against the Jedi. I have a pet combo to go verses every combat profession in the game. Jedi is just a new one I have to add to the list.
Remember with your combat skill and the right pet choices you are still uber in combat. It is not a “give me” anymore. You have to be smart about it. Example: If you are dueling some ones Commando toon you use two Endorian Blood Seeker Mites. I love watching them scream that their flame and electric is not working. Remember fight smatter not harder.
Rooks
Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:29 pm
#10
But jedi Mind Trick literally turns our Pets AGAINST US.
That is like saying you are attacking a commando and he reaches over and takes your rifle away and beats you with it.
There IS no defense against this other than do NOT fight Jedi.
SkyPreacher1
Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:44 pm
#11
Why do we fight?
What is the point in posting?
I am tired guys, tired of 9 months of being ignored. 9 months of being screwed over. And then Roach comes in and says find the right pet? What a crock.
I have a level 70 razor cat with light armor 12k HAM, poison and knockdown and you know what a regular TKM buffed can take him out. Now they are saying, Jedi can not only take him out they can take him away.
It's the ultimate insult. We were nerfed and we didn't even know it. Roach you have no clue therefore you must be a troll go troll somewhere else.
BlindTyldak
Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:45 pm
#12
It's been confirmed, its not only the Master box. All animal commands do in fact work against our pets.
BULLROACH
Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:49 pm
#13
Not unless you can take back the command of your pet. *Smile*
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