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Thread: While you're fixing the Elite Pets, Make Grand Wrix Elites as well! :)
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KzinKiller
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:02 pm
#1
JFreeman wrote:We're not just "fixing" specials, though. We're replacing that with a specials system that has a lot of new special abilities. So you tame different creatures to learn their specials, and then teach those specials to the pets you actually want to use, depending on what combat role you want the pet to fulfill.
KzinKiller wrote:
JFreeman wrote:I find your lack of faith...disturbing.
Gimpynoob wrote:
You have faith in the developers???
The fix for this just passed QA on Test Center.
No offense, but since we've been waiting over 5 weeks for an iota of progress on broken Specials, you'd have to have more faith than a televangelist's hairstylist to be a CH and faithful these days.
So we didn't want to "fix" the old specials system, since we were replacing it instead.
The new specials system is currently in development. We just want a little extra time to polish it, and that's why you don't have it (or a fix to the old system) yet.
Wow .... that's a great deal more information about what is being done than we've been given before, so thank you very much. You understand that this invalidates *all* the careful selection of pets for their useful Specials that current MCH's spent uncounted hours on before the C.U., and that we would have greatly appreciated an opportunity to provide actual input about a change like this before you pushed ahead with it, right?
I applaud you heartily for informing us on this one, but the failure to solicit input in the past has led to developers expressing surprise when the community hates the solution that suddenly pops up from dev-land ... this was a big chance for you to avoid that kind of mis-step.
We DID want the old system fixed ... nobody asked for a new system ... we ALREADY spent a lot of time choosing the proper pet for the combat role we wanted the pet to fulfill. It would be interesting to hear how you perceive trashing all our prior work and asking us to do it again will be perceived as a 'fix' by this community, but again I very much appreciate the level of honesty in your post, though I suspect you'll take a little heat for it.
Khendra
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:08 pm
#2
JFreeman wrote:
I find your lack of faith...disturbing.
Gimpynoob wrote:
You have faith in the developers???
The fix for this just passed QA on Test Center.
Its hard to have faith in something you get 99% ignored in.. For me, I have issues with the LOS problem in the Ryyatt trail which not one of you devs have commented on here on the boards.. Look at the Bh board and you will find allot of people complaining about this. Another thing.. How are you devs suppose to back up the claim that Jedi should be hard to level when they have free reign of the Ryyatt trail. Kashyyyk was suppose to be a quest planet but has turned into the #1 hot spot for Jedi grinding. Show me I can believe in you and you'll have my faith.........
Ralthiel
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:09 pm
#3
JFreeman wrote:We're not just "fixing" specials, though. We're replacing that with a specials system that has a lot of new special abilities. So you tame different creatures to learn their specials, and then teach those specials to the pets you actually want to use, depending on what combat role you want the pet to fulfill.
KzinKiller wrote:
JFreeman wrote:I find your lack of faith...disturbing.
Gimpynoob wrote:
You have faith in the developers???
The fix for this just passed QA on Test Center.
No offense, but since we've been waiting over 5 weeks for an iota of progress on broken Specials, you'd have to have more faith than a televangelist's hairstylist to be a CH and faithful these days.
So we didn't want to "fix" the old specials system, since we were replacing it instead.
The new specials system is currently in development. We just want a little extra time to polish it, and that's why you don't have it (or a fix to the old system) yet.
Wow, that sounds pretty cool. I'm getting Pokemon flashbacks though, thats kind of an odd feeling.
AryethRahn
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:10 pm
#4
JFreeman wrote:We're not just "fixing" specials, though. We're replacing that with a specials system that has a lot of new special abilities. So you tame different creatures to learn their specials, and then teach those specials to the pets you actually want to use, depending on what combat role you want the pet to fulfill.
KzinKiller wrote:
JFreeman wrote:I find your lack of faith...disturbing.
Gimpynoob wrote:
You have faith in the developers???
The fix for this just passed QA on Test Center.
No offense, but since we've been waiting over 5 weeks for an iota of progress on broken Specials, you'd have to have more faith than a televangelist's hairstylist to be a CH and faithful these days.
So we didn't want to "fix" the old specials system, since we were replacing it instead.
The new specials system is currently in development. We just want a little extra time to polish it, and that's why you don't have it (or a fix to the old system) yet.
Am I dreaming
JCooper2
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:14 pm
#5
All I can say is WOW 
Imagine 3 Female Narglatches all with different specials......sounds like 6 different specials to me 
If this is the true direction then that would be wonderful.
Thanks for the additional information JFreeman. All it takes is keeping the communication lines open and honest and things are much more pleasant between SOE and the players paying for the game.
Again Thanks 
Epsilon125
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:15 pm
#7
I think the idea of a system to customizepets to specific uses sounds great. I think it sounds better than the old system.
Hardley
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:15 pm
#8
Khendra wrote:
JFreeman wrote:
I find your lack of faith...disturbing.
Gimpynoob wrote:
You have faith in the developers???
The fix for this just passed QA on Test Center.
Its hard to have faith in something you get 99% ignored in.. For me, I have issues with the LOS problem in the Ryyatt trail which not one of you devs have commented on here on the boards.. Look at the Bh board and you will find allot of people complaining about this. Another thing.. How are you devs suppose to back up the claim that Jedi should be hard to level when they have free reign of the Ryyatt trail. Kashyyyk was suppose to be a quest planet but has turned into the #1 hot spot for Jedi grinding. Show me I can believe in you and you'll have my faith.........
Come on, give him/her (JFreeman) a break ... I for one love this new attention and want him/her to keep it up. Don't scare him/her off! I'm gonna forgive and forget the past and start with a clean slate so JFreeman, help me out here and keep it up. Nobody is perfect, bugs will get in the code, bugs will get past QA and testing ... just keep being up front about things and people are gonna love ya' 
Kitoth
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:17 pm
#9
JFreeman wrote:
We're not just "fixing" specials, though. We're replacing that with a specials system that has a lot of new special abilities. So you tame different creatures to learn their specials, and then teach those specials to the pets you actually want to use, depending on what combat role you want the pet to fulfill.
KzinKiller wrote:
JFreeman wrote:
I find your lack of faith...disturbing.
Gimpynoob wrote:
You have faith in the developers???
The fix for this just passed QA on Test Center.
No offense, but since we've been waiting over 5 weeks for an iota of progress on broken Specials, you'd have to have more faith than a televangelist's hairstylist to be a CH and faithful these days.
So we didn't want to "fix" the old specials system, since we were replacing it instead.
The new specials system is currently in development. We just want a little extra time to polish it, and that's why you don't have it (or a fix to the old system) yet.
WoW! That sounds familiar!
:-P
Now if pets could actually be used for what they're supposed to be used (tanking and/or supplemental damage) then we'll be on to something.
/whisper While you're poaching stuff from that other game, see if you can get their devs to tell you how to implement a 'growl' type ability. Oh, and don't justmake aspecial thatsays it does what growl does,make sure it actually works as well!
Message Edited by Kitoth on 07-01-2005 01:18 PM
Khendra
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:22 pm
#10
Hardley wrote:
Khendra wrote:
JFreeman wrote:
I find your lack of faith...disturbing.
Gimpynoob wrote:
You have faith in the developers???
The fix for this just passed QA on Test Center.
Its hard to have faith in something you get 99% ignored in.. For me, I have issues with the LOS problem in the Ryyatt trail which not one of you devs have commented on here on the boards.. Look at the Bh board and you will find allot of people complaining about this. Another thing.. How are you devs suppose to back up the claim that Jedi should be hard to level when they have free reign of the Ryyatt trail. Kashyyyk was suppose to be a quest planet but has turned into the #1 hot spot for Jedi grinding. Show me I can believe in you and you'll have my faith.........
Come on, give him/her (JFreeman) a break ... I for one love this new attention and want him/her to keep it up. Don't scare him/her off! I'm gonna forgive and forget the past and start with a clean slate so JFreeman, help me out here and keep it up. Nobody is perfect, bugs will get in the code, bugs will get past QA and testing ... just keep being up front about things and people are gonna love ya'
Im not gonna start a flame war with you.. I simply stated truths about what affects both of our professions in that part of the Ryyatt trail. Your pets cant hit anything thats sitting in the exploited spot. This LOS problem affects every combat profession. I'm not being rude or obscene, I'm being honest. If that scares him off, then being honest is a bad thing I guess.
Epsilon125
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:25 pm
#11
Khendra wrote:
Hardley wrote:
Khendra wrote:
JFreeman wrote:
I find your lack of faith...disturbing.
Gimpynoob wrote:
You have faith in the developers???
The fix for this just passed QA on Test Center.
Its hard to have faith in something you get 99% ignored in.. For me, I have issues with the LOS problem in the Ryyatt trail which not one of you devs have commented on here on the boards.. Look at the Bh board and you will find allot of people complaining about this. Another thing.. How are you devs suppose to back up the claim that Jedi should be hard to level when they have free reign of the Ryyatt trail. Kashyyyk was suppose to be a quest planet but has turned into the #1 hot spot for Jedi grinding. Show me I can believe in you and you'll have my faith.........
Come on, give him/her (JFreeman) a break ... I for one love this new attention and want him/her to keep it up. Don't scare him/her off! I'm gonna forgive and forget the past and start with a clean slate so JFreeman, help me out here and keep it up. Nobody is perfect, bugs will get in the code, bugs will get past QA and testing ... just keep being up front about things and people are gonna love ya'
Im not gonna start a flame war with you.. I simply stated truths about what affects both of our professions in that part of the Ryyatt trail. Your pets cant hit anything thats sitting in the exploited spot. This LOS problem affects every combat profession. I'm not being rude or obscene, I'm being honest. If that scares him off, then being honest is a bad thing I guess.
Except there are other threads and times to respond to that. We're talking about pet specials and the news of a completely new system here. Don't waste all our time.
Corpusblight
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:26 pm
#12
JFreeman wrote:
We're not just "fixing" specials, though. We're replacing that with a specials system that has a lot of new special abilities. So you tame different creatures to learn their specials, and then teach those specials to the pets you actually want to use, depending on what combat role you want the pet to fulfill.
So we didn't want to "fix" the old specials system, since we were replacing it instead.
The new specials system is currently in development. We just want a little extra time to polish it, and that's why you don't have it (or a fix to the old system) yet.
You could have saved poor Ko a lot of grief by telling us that a lot sooner. This actually sounds interesting.
Maybe, just maybe
now if only you could keep up this level of communication. This is the kind of info we want to hear . I think a lot of us will be able to put up with the missing specials a bit longer if there is going to be a dynamic change like that, it seems to give us the ablilty to customise our own pets.!
CARPE CORPUS!! 
Hardley
Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:27 pm
#13
No flame no problem ... I don't want to give all a break but JFreeman for sure ... let's wait and see how this plays out ... the communication is there ... the big question, will it keep up?
Khendra wrote:
Hardley wrote:
Khendra wrote:
JFreeman wrote:
I find your lack of faith...disturbing.
Gimpynoob wrote:
You have faith in the developers???
The fix for this just passed QA on Test Center.
Its hard to have faith in something you get 99% ignored in.. For me, I have issues with the LOS problem in the Ryyatt trail which not one of you devs have commented on here on the boards.. Look at the Bh board and you will find allot of people complaining about this. Another thing.. How are you devs suppose to back up the claim that Jedi should be hard to level when they have free reign of the Ryyatt trail. Kashyyyk was suppose to be a quest planet but has turned into the #1 hot spot for Jedi grinding. Show me I can believe in you and you'll have my faith.........
Come on, give him/her (JFreeman) a break ... I for one love this new attention and want him/her to keep it up. Don't scare him/her off! I'm gonna forgive and forget the past and start with a clean slate so JFreeman, help me out here and keep it up. Nobody is perfect, bugs will get in the code, bugs will get past QA and testing ... just keep being up front about things and people are gonna love ya'
Im not gonna start a flame war with you.. I simply stated truths about what affects both of our professions in that part of the Ryyatt trail. Your pets cant hit anything thats sitting in the exploited spot. This LOS problem affects every combat profession. I'm not being rude or obscene, I'm being honest. If that scares him off, then being honest is a bad thing I guess.
We seem to have someone willing talk, and explain. I want to keep him/her Message Edited by Hardley on 07-01-2005 01:29 PM
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