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Thread: 19 Questions: Next Question

Pluto9Moon
Sat May 22, 2004 8:18 pm
#1

Vert and my Fellow CH:

My alt toon is an MDE. In the course of perusing the DE forums today I came acrossed a post that made me cringe as a CH. The exploding MSE Droid. I will provide a link at a later time in the form of edit but I have to relate this story. It seems that an exploding MSE Droid can do upwards of 1K damage in PvP and 10K damage in PvE versus NPC's according to this post. While I do not argue for a nerf of these types of Droids, I do argue that we spend way to many Skill Points to be left in the cold. While this may not be the most frightening portion of this post in light that these droids seem to be able to defeat the the Jedi training on roof tops exploit. It is my impression that we CH cannot command Pets from outside a building. How is it that these Droids are commanded to go through a house to the roof then attack?

The DE have always stated with better Droids we would see Creature numbers dwindle. It seems to me that not only do they now have comparable Droids but in many ways far superior droids. I once jested about exploding Durni. I think the time has come to cease jesting. I want exploding Durni. Something that puts us back in some market. Combat Revamp or no, we are being left on the fringes of PvP. It is a mockery to participate in PvP. We do not have any capability of doing massive damage at any one time. Yet every profession with any combat ability can easily do 2K+ damage. I do understand the Combat Rebalance will change most things. For the time being however I want an Exploding Durni. Suicide Bomber Spat. Nuke Nuna. Detonationg Dewbacks. Warhead Worrt.

It is no joke. Give me some combat abilities NOW. This may be one of the last few posts I make in the CH thread. Starting Monday, I begin a new campaign on the Dev boards. If I can post in a thread I will very politely ask what is in each and every thread what is being done for CH. I will no longer lay here and rot in our own threads. I have politely asked for communication and we have none. This silence festers. Even the most well thought out posts have largely gone ignored.



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EricTheGreat
Sat May 22, 2004 9:58 pm
#2

Remember that for someone to be able to use the detonation droids, they must have novice BH or novice smuggler, and you cant call out pets in the middle of a battle. So these are nothing for DEs but a product to sell.


And AT-STs have been found to be able to go to the top of rooftops too to kill jedi, I have no idea about more "normal" pets though.


And they arent going to give you combat abilities now, all they will say is "combat balance."


I surrendered MCH because of the lack of power, not so much for pve (pets still work great for pve IMO, considering if you can find a very good BE ) , but for pvp, and with all these high level dungeons out now, it sure doesnt take long to grind it back. Just give it up and go back later if youre looking for power in pvp.



Kenner Aldric
~Deviancy At Its Best~
BH/Pistoleer Cowboy Extrodinaire, Recovering Old Timer MDE Spice Addict

Pluto9Moon
Sat May 22, 2004 11:00 pm
#3

Eric,

I do want to make it perfectly clear I am not blaming the DE at all. But come on here like BH and smugglers needed more damage PvE. Both already have very effective KD's and high damage. A novice smuggler with 10K damage droid?



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NoseNugget
Sun May 23, 2004 3:20 am
#4

YEAH YEAH FIRE FIRE.
fantoq
Sun May 23, 2004 6:41 am
#5

Don't know, the one I saw wouldn't be a factor in PvP unless you can get a sneak attack or they have some pretty good range. I could take it out in one shot with almost any weapon.



fantoq
MCH
former Medic
App. Carbineer
Society of Interplanetary Mercenaries[SIM]/ stargate/ naboo
TrandoshanDroidTech
Sun May 23, 2004 7:17 am
#6

While I'm all for a suicidal nuna or dewback, theres a moral and possibly animal rights issue there, because you, me or any CH veteran would hesitate to have thier pet explode unlike a droid, which you can't really get attached to.



Danwwgh/Bria

Master Rifleman/MCH
taloncard
Sun May 23, 2004 11:54 am
#7

/sigh

I know pluto better than that. He doesn't really want an exploding Durni but wants to show how now almost every profession has a Meaningful PvP purpose but CH. We went from the strongest profession to the weakest in 1 blow and we have remained at such a level for 6 months now and once again all we are hearing is "wait for the combat revamp"

I have said it before and I will say it again, the combat revamp should already be on TC and having the bugs worked out of it NOW!!! not months from now so we once again spend 1+ years getting combat working again!



Oh yeah Pluto PETA called, they want to lynch ya

Message Edited by taloncard on 05-23-2004 02:54 PM




Severan T'iam (Valcyn) RIP 7/2/2003-5/8/2005.
Master Nerf herder (oops I mean CH oops CH is gone but never forgotten)
SWG: Quote: Grand moff Tarkin: The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. you my friend are all thats left of their religon. Except for the other 5000 over there...


Pluto9Moon
Sun May 23, 2004 2:49 pm
#8

LOL talon,

It has just gotten old guys. It is a rollercoaster ride for sure. Be nice. Get frustrated. Yanno the worst part is a Novice Marksman told me, "I can't wait until they Nerf you". That was months ago in the name of a Combat Rebalance we got nerfed. Then they hand BH and Smuggler another 10K damage device. OK. Granted PvP may not be the best place to use these, but there are many mixed issues now. CH cannot command pets from outside buildings. A tactical use for a Police dog is to rush a building thus sparing its owners life. Police dogs are loved by their owners but it is a flushing technique.

These droids can apparently gain access to a house marked private. Get on the roof. And kill AFK Jedi. OK. In the name of fairness it might keep the Jedi population from exploiting that training method. But what Jedi in is right mind in this time period is going to hunt in public in order to train. The perma TEF will make for a nice change. And once it is in this should not be allowed. Droids should respond to the same general rule system as pets.

Maybe the question should be: "why don't the Devs communicate with CH?"

It is pure and simple. We have Vert communicating to them but we are not receiving any feedback from them at all.



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TrandoshanDroidTech
Sun May 23, 2004 2:59 pm
#9

I understand now and I completely agree with what you are saying. I am one of those who were here during the so called 'Golden Age' for CHs (just made that up), and yes we have been waiting too long for a combat fix. If the devs worked with the DEs and BHs? why not work with us? our problems are just as bad as the 'broken terminal' for BHs, yet they both had the devs communicate with them more than us. We have tried to clean up the boards and remove any flaming (and we have done a great job of that), yet the devs don't communicate, meanwhile our morale has gotten to a sad state. We need to do something!


While doing a protest like the wook armor one in January, it may not work so well for us because it was a clear cut problem for us wooks, for CHs, its a multitude of problems, and protests work best with a single issue.


If the devs could have a Q&A session with us like they did the IDs, that would boost our morale by so much!


Vert, are you making notes of this?



Danwwgh/Bria

Master Rifleman/MCH
Pluto9Moon
Sun May 23, 2004 3:11 pm
#10

Trando you may be on to something here.

Just one Dev for 2 days to answer questions. We could post them and he could print them out and come back the next day with answers. Would take less time than I spend checking in the forums and replying as quick as I can. Nothing real time. Unless they want to do an IRC chat with CH only one night. We can hook that up too.

And again Eric if wait until the Combat Rebalance is the answer why is everyone else getting new things? Powerful things? Fixes?



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TrandoshanDroidTech
Sun May 23, 2004 3:22 pm
#11




Pluto9Moon wrote:
\if wait until the Combat Rebalance is the answer why is everyone else getting new things? Powerful things? Fixes?




exactly biwan:






Pluto9Moon wrote:

Just one Dev for 2 days to answer questions. We could post them and he could print them out and come back the next day with answers. Would take less time than I spend checking in the forums and replying as quick as I can. Nothing real time. Unless they want to do an IRC chat with CH only one night. We can hook that up too.





That sounds like a good idea, we should try and do that. Only prob with IRC is that you can't prove you are a CH and oftentimes important questions may not get through. If a dev could just print out the questions, that would give more time for them to prepare answers and get info they need on thier own time.


Meanwhile, we could suggest ways to help fix that autostore problem, such as the same thing they did with the BH terminal problem, they looked at or observed (no idea how exactly they did it) the jedi characters to find a solution to the problem. In short, they should work with us CHs and there are far more CHs than all the jedis of all galaxies combined and use every method they can do, and it seems like they haven't done all they can possibly do to fix the autostore problem.




Danwwgh/Bria

Master Rifleman/MCH
taloncard
Sun May 23, 2004 4:04 pm
#12

I am all for the IRC channel, make it restricted and have the CH community pick a few representatives. This way it doesn't turn into a flame fest, but remains a productive discussion.

Would the devs be willing to do this Vert, I think after all this time we deserve some answers.

My personal nominations come from the small but vocal minority in the community

Pluto, Transh, Siobible (major spelling mistakes here) Fantoq, Barb, tivo, Vert (of course), hell I will throw my own name in for **edit**'s and giggles




Severan T'iam (Valcyn) RIP 7/2/2003-5/8/2005.
Master Nerf herder (oops I mean CH oops CH is gone but never forgotten)
SWG: Quote: Grand moff Tarkin: The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. you my friend are all thats left of their religon. Except for the other 5000 over there...


TrandoshanDroidTech
Sun May 23, 2004 4:20 pm
#13


Its Trando and Siobabble heh


Thanks I am pretty involved in CH and somewhat a community voice


I agree Talon, we should invite a select few (max of 20 I think) to go and do the IRC chat with some devs.


What about ZonJai (sp?) hes not a major community leader, but he has become sort of a minor leader of the community elders here.

Message Edited by TrandoshanDroidTech on 05-23-2004 04:22 PM



Danwwgh/Bria

Master Rifleman/MCH
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