Creature Handler Archive
Thread: PETITION to fix BABY Frienzied Graul pet spawn
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SlaughterMonster
Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:30 am
#1
do'nt know if this is a bug or not but i'd like the dev's to look into this
Seeing as how this is a pet that used to spawn babies and only a handful
of people on each server have one makes this pet a precious comodity for any MCH to have
Being able to find the adult and no babies for over a year makes me wonder
a.) Dev's nerfed the babies so FG are no longer avail to CH's
b.) there is something wrong with the spawn to make babies spawn no longer
c.) because of the population on dant spawns are limited in their spawning range and should be increased to allow other CH
SlaughterMonster
Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:32 am
#2
do'nt know if this is a bug or not but i'd like the dev's to look into this
Seeing as how this is a pet that used to spawn babies and only a handful
of people on each server have one makes this pet a precious comodity for any MCH to have
Being able to find the adult and no babies for over a year makes me wonder
a.) Dev's nerfed the babies so FG are no longer avail to CH's
b.) there is something wrong with the spawn to make babies spawn no longer
c.) because of the population on dant spawns are limited in their spawning range and should
be increased to allow other CH's the chance to get this pet
At the least i'd like to know if the Dev's nerfed this awsome pet and give us all a final answer
as to why this pet's kin has not spawned in over a year
Joker9125
Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:55 am
#3
I think they nerfed it because it was the most used pet in pvp or something and they didnt want people remembering being pounded by CHs in pvp a long time ago
Message Edited by Joker9125 on 01-25-2005 07:56 AM
jopenack
Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:01 am
#4
not sure if its the spawn or the listing as tamable but fix it none the less lol
I have seen petitions get deleted they say forums are not for them. but good luck
/sign
SlaughterMonster
Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:07 am
#5
MESSAGE TO THE DEV'S/CSR'S
This "petition" is not to bring anyone again'st anyone else
I am only trying to get an answer the the questions i had earlier through discussion and hope.
As i have never once gotten a response from a CSR concerning any in game problems
I am hoping that this post reaches one of you to get a FACTUAL response as to why no one can find
FG babies anymore.....
As far as pvp is concerned there is not a GOD difference between a 60% kin BE pet and a 65% wild pet
I am only interested in this pet for PVE purposes and would like a professional response as to why i can not
find this pet along with 100% of the CH's out playing SWG atm
--Thank you for your time and i hope for a response from someone with information for all to share
Joker9125
Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:16 am
#6
I was saying that before our nerf these were the premere pets in PvP. And if we had them now it would bring back bad memories. Hey.........its a theory
Pluto9Moon
Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:55 am
#7
This very request triggered the last set of bannings. Tivo you are still the man. Skypreacher good luck with your endeavors. You both are missed in SWG and as friends.
The CH community is more family than any other community. Even though we often disagree with what or how people say things we still defend each others right to say it.
The people in charge, however, supress great questions. These forums are less to fix anything but more of a marketting tool. The powers that be would love to make SWG seem like a galactic stroll through Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood. Instead these forums reflect the agony of 100's of thousands of people slowly rotting in the belly of the Sarlacc. This is what the Devs and Moderators do not want the potential buyer to see.
So petition away but give up any hope that developers read these and want to affect change.
They have been aware of this for a year. TH said everything was working properly. No one else wants to look into it. Tiggs has been told. No answer from her. JFreeman would fix it if he were allowed. The powers that be love messing with CH as seen in aloof statememnts made by TH, misssed opportunities to answer questions in threads the Devs are replying to, and the evidenced combat revamp lie when CH was told all other professions would be brought in tow in 2 months.
Many of us who hunted the graul feel robbed and let down. It is like our evil version of a holocron. Imagine the holocron said do "Chef" and the whole time it meant Commando. Had this mislabled item been related to Jedi there would have been a hot fix by lunch and the servers brought down to implement it.
We are not all treated fairly nor do they care to do so. They may say they do, but we all know better.
/SIGN I WANT A FRENZIED GRAUL.
The CH community is more family than any other community. Even though we often disagree with what or how people say things we still defend each others right to say it.
The people in charge, however, supress great questions. These forums are less to fix anything but more of a marketting tool. The powers that be would love to make SWG seem like a galactic stroll through Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood. Instead these forums reflect the agony of 100's of thousands of people slowly rotting in the belly of the Sarlacc. This is what the Devs and Moderators do not want the potential buyer to see.
So petition away but give up any hope that developers read these and want to affect change.
They have been aware of this for a year. TH said everything was working properly. No one else wants to look into it. Tiggs has been told. No answer from her. JFreeman would fix it if he were allowed. The powers that be love messing with CH as seen in aloof statememnts made by TH, misssed opportunities to answer questions in threads the Devs are replying to, and the evidenced combat revamp lie when CH was told all other professions would be brought in tow in 2 months.
Many of us who hunted the graul feel robbed and let down. It is like our evil version of a holocron. Imagine the holocron said do "Chef" and the whole time it meant Commando. Had this mislabled item been related to Jedi there would have been a hot fix by lunch and the servers brought down to implement it.
We are not all treated fairly nor do they care to do so. They may say they do, but we all know better.
/SIGN I WANT A FRENZIED GRAUL.
Phalax
Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:06 am
#8
When DEV's nerfed CH i dropped it. but i realy missed it and want it back. But when CH's pull out rancors and gruals in PvP they should do regular damage and be hard. It's a Star Wars thing. All pets shouldnt be dead in 2 shots by a TKM and Swords they should actuly be able to do something in battle. They should give us the pets back as they were in the begging.
Balrozgul
Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:24 pm
#9
The thing that gets me about this is that according to the ranger info on examine, this creature is tamable and therefore should spawn babies. This is the most well known of these inconsistencies but there are others out there which say tamable according to the examine yet Ive never seen a baby. The giant mawgax springs to mind. Anything that says tamable should spawn babies with some amount of regularity.
SlaughterMonster
Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:39 pm
#10
Just to put my personal experiences i've been looking for the ever "elusive/extinct" FG baby and i've found
about 15 spawns on dantooine in the last 2 weeks killing the full cycle of spawns and never once seening a baby
finding the FG is one thing but to find that many spawns and never finding one baby on top of that........
poses some questions that this is an issue that should be addressed
theorb22
Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:56 pm
#11
I recall a post from tiggs awhile ago in some other forum stating that devs did not look at petitions because they often turned into flame fests or had no relevant thought on why the petitin should succeed. Of course all of the petitions in question were not CH petitions, unlike pretty much all the otherpetitions aroundwe have argued back and forth all day long to prove our points, but there isn't any way for them to know this 
.
.And i don't understand how bringing back the FG would make anyone with half a stacker template cry /NERF. an extra 65 percent maybe buys it an extra 3 seconds of life, maybe bringing about a 13 second lifespan unless their a fencer which would make it slightly longer, and in that time no amount of bleed ticks would bring down a buffed person. Not to say it wouldn't be cool to have an FG to still use those attacks mind you and surprise people, its just that there is no possible way that given the currentstats with CH in pvp that anyone could justify an FG as overpowered. I've been through too manydefeats in the past month using MCH to possibly consider the chance that a pet with a good DOT and 5 percent more kinetic resist would actually come close to winning....but by golly it'll help and it'll be cool while using them!
enigma_writer
Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:18 pm
#12
I will sign
This is one of my top issues for the profession and remember seeing it as one of Vert's top issues in his request poll
Milteck (BEAST)
hossp
Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:46 am
#13
mabey i'm an optimist..lol yeah right
..but i think the frenzied is just set to a ridiculously low spawn rate not unlike the bull rancor..the difference being perhaps hundreds of bulls are killed per server per day and only a few frenzieds...
..but i think the frenzied is just set to a ridiculously low spawn rate not unlike the bull rancor..the difference being perhaps hundreds of bulls are killed per server per day and only a few frenzieds...it it pretty much accepted the spawn rate for bull babies is .1, or one in a thousand..so if one were to do several hundered lairs, odds are they will see one, (took me over 700 btw)..since missions can be drawn for bulls, it is time comsuming, but not that difficult to accomplish this...
frenzieds, on the other hand..you may spend all day looking and if you kill 5 spawns, that is productive..since the first one doesn't count( it would never be a baby...no one finds a gps baby without killing at least on adult)..that would be 5 sets of 3 respawns or 15 frenzieds...so assuming you could find 5 spawns every day you would be looking at 66.6 consecutive days of frenzied hunting in order to see 1000 respawns..in all likely hood there will be days when you fine none or very few..and hopefully you have a job, so you can't put in 8+hrs hunting grauls everyday..so realisticlly one would have to spend every game min hunting for close to a year ..or several months if you have no life, hehe
i believe this would have to be done on a single server..200 on shadow fire, 200 on kauri, 200 on gorath..does not equal 600..it equals 200..the spawn rate is one in a 1000 per galaxy, not per entire game...
i am not undertaking this endevor, first off because it is only a guess, second off..i don't have the time..
if a few ch's on my server were willing to document respawns, i would gladly participate...and if 10 ch's on another srever each got 200 respawns, i would expect to hear some breaking news...1000 respawns is a lot to find..it would be fun to try if i had the time to dedicate to it..the reward would be sweet...or i could be completey wrong and the babies have been removed..i hate not knowing
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