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Thread: STOP ALL IS NOT QUITE LOST

DavinFelth2
Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:01 pm
#1


scroll down to the red - I found this somewhere else though you guys should know - I hope this aint stikied or something otherwise im going to look a fool - its a letter from a tester guy


Hello,
My name is Josh Gilhen and I was one of those chosen to play the Beta at the Sony offices in Austin.
Just post questions and I'll do my best to answer. First we have these:

Questions:

- Will the new Jedi system be like Pre-9?
No. Jedi entering the system will be an equal class to the others. The grind will be much shorter.
Existing Jedi get to reach level 90. They also get an exclusive robe, a higher damage saber, blue glowy
and an Elder title.

- Will force healing be around? I didn’t see anything in there about it?
Healing is still around, as is force run. I don't have specifics yet. The steak was too good to ignore.

- Is there going to be Light and Dark sides?
The new system is being published in phases, unlike the CU so that it doesn't come out all bugged.
Later publishes will go deeper in to features like the Dark/Light factions.

- If the XP nerf coming back? Looks like verbatim from that sh*t publish
You need much less XP to level, so it's been ajusted accordingly. People level often via quests so that
players can finish their templates to go out there and start having fun!

- Is space combat getting nerfed?
Space is staying as is. Infact Goliath showed me a certain ship he was working on...I can't give
specifics but it's not a capital ship- more of a cruiser that's many times the size of the Yacht.

- Any plans to modify vet rewards? ADK’s seem to be useless (glad I got 15 of me… NOT
When I was there, they were making up their conversion tables. ADKs will either remain usefull or
changed to something to equal value.

- What the HELL happened to Melee?
Any class can pick up melee. Some it works better for than others. For instances you can be a Bounty
Hunter who specializes in Hand to Hand combat or in weaponry. It's like Pre-CU, but since the SP
system changed you can be much better at it.

- What the HELL happened to Crafting?
Nothing. It just got devided into a larger class. There are sopme changes for future publishes. On an
interesting note, Pure crafters or entertainers no longer draw NPC aggros and crafters can sell their crap
rescources to NPCs for a decent price.

**edit** MY CH IS GONE?!
Yes, due to the new twitch combat, CH doesn't work aynmore the way it used to. Mounts are remaining
ingame, as are combat pets because SOE is not completly destroying the prof. They are shelfing it until
they have a way to implement it in the new system.


Can I have an alt...?
Giving every player an alt is technicaly not fessable. You know how Bria nearly explodes every time it
boots up? That's because all the character data eats up the server Ram, causing them to have to jack it
up with other server rescources. Giving every player an alt would turn every server into Bria, and Bria
into a pile of smoldering server.

Smugglers? Hello?
First of all, slicing is gone in it's current form. Expect changes in future publishes. Smuggler is more of
a dirty combat class now that uses awesome tricks to escape and fight. They also can sell items on any
Vendor/Bazzar they own or public int he galaxy without leaving wherever they are.

Harvesters
Soon it will be the harvester purge. 3 months inactivity and they kaput. They also want to make
harvesters dirt cheap to make so that after being dropped a few times, they break and architects can
replace them.

- Anyone can place a Vendor

- SEAs are getting a facelift. Broken mods will be gradually removed and existing ones will change
into their new game equivilant.

- Mobs wont cluster any more so that you can nail a clean shot.

- Cinematics will be itroduced as a togglable option (like the Mustafar ones. There's 3 new ones in the
new player tutorial)

- Grenades rock! You don't throw them at a targeted player but just in general direction. The explosion
will mark the terrain for a while and send mobs flying.

- Some cities will receive graphical improvements in the terrain. Isley for instance.

Why breaking down into 9?
Currently, the Devs have to adress the issues of 40 correspondants, not to mention the ones not
profession related. For any team, that is a sh!t load of work. By breaking it down into a smaller number
that the profs still exist in but in different functions, they can adress issues in a much better way.

This also makes mixing more unique- All ranged and melee were essentially the same minus the
weapon and range on them. The new system makes mixing and matching more unique to the player's
style. There won't be any more FOTM templates.

Another positive aspect is this will eliminate credit farmers and AFK loot/grinding permanently.

A few more notes I think you'll want to know:

- Lag is virtually gone in masses. Many things in the old system were server side to protect it from
hackers. For instance, if you wanted to sit your pc was like "Can I please sit down?" Server goes "Hang
on a sec, I'm busy....Alright go ahead". All the combat and basic stuff have been moved client side.
This means a huge improvement, especially in mass PVP.

- Officers have the coolest abilities- An officer can call in bombing strikes every so often in which Tie
bombers literaly fly 20 feet overhead and bomb the crap out of the lair. This can be used in PVP, but
bear in mind players can move alot before it hits.

- Because of the new targeting system, if someone in your group is taking alot of damage and is about
to die, you can step between them and absorb the hits while they run.

- If you get stuck out in the middle of nowhere, you can call a shuttle to fly you to the nearest Starport.

- Alot of people think this is going to be an FPS. That's not so. The hitbox is very forgiving for
regeristing hits no matter their size. (Size issue has been adressed, everyone will be the same regardlessof wookie or bothan). For example:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=339131&poll_id=0&warned=y

Anywhere in the red area will take damage as long as you float your cursor over it. This means it isn't
precise shooting like CS, just a way to keep you active. Battles only last about 10 seconds on a mob
your level so it's quite fun.

Message Edited by DavinFelth2 on 11-06-2005 05:18 PM



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jopenack
Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:21 pm
#2

Yes we all know about this and most of us don't believe them.


They will never take it off the shelf not when they can use that time for an expansion.


Want to know why we don't believe them, hmm how about the new babies and taming necklace. How about all the other lies and manipulation they used to string people along for years here.


When they fire the liars and hire honarable people this could change. People are not leaving because they eliminated ch as much as they are leaving because the lies out number the truths here.


I don't know why I even try and explain things in these threads, seems we get two a day here since this started. Sorry no offense but its just kinda old hash now. If you want to hope and believe them I guess you can lol, unfortunatly nothing much would really stop the people who have cancelled they're acounts. Its the camel and the straw thing if you know what I mean.







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"Creature Handlers are not 1% of the population, they are over the 50% mark, the 1% excuse is a flat out lie"
DavinFelth2
Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:25 pm
#3






jopenack wrote:

Yes we all know about this and most of us don't believe them.


They will never take it off the shelf not when they can use that time for an expansion.


Want to know why we don't believe them, hmm how about the new babies and taming necklace. How about all the other lies and manipulation they used to string people along for years here.


When they fire the liars and hire honarable people this could change. People are not leaving because they eliminated ch as much as they are leaving because the lies out number the truths here.


I don't know why I even try and explain things in these threads, seems we get two a day here since this started. Sorry no offense but its just kinda old hash now. If you want to hope and believe them I guess you can lol, unfortunatly nothing much would really stop the people who have cancelled they're acounts. Its the camel and the straw thing if you know what I mean.










I suppose I see your point, bye, bye CH's it was nice knowing you



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SpacePunk
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:52 pm
#4

They are habitual liars, what makes you think that statement has any truth too it?






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Hardley
Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:27 am
#5

You gotta remember, these are the people who told us there was a CH taming necklace also ... it's a simple carrot and a stick ... SOE loves all these posts of rumors about something for CH down the road 'cause it might keep a few people paying for their accounts for a while ... me, I'm outa here



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RynnnDraggon
Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:44 am
#6

Well, let's just consider the source everyone. They are Liars and will always be liars. I fully believe that someone needs to take SWG Away from SOE completely.

Give the contract to either Horizons or to WoW. At least they know HOW to run a game.



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Soha
Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:19 am
#7

What they will probably do is throw Creature Handling back in to the game for the beta of their next expansion. When it goes live and they have everybody's money, it will be gone again.
DaBudo2
Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:58 am
#8

And, yet, the devs have said nothing to us about this - or anything else for that matter. CH & BE communities have been completely ignored. You'll notice that the devs have not said that we are simply being "shelved". The fact that they have not bothered to say anything at all to us tells me that we have been completely dismissed.



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T_Sekanis
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:56 am
#9

Hrm. Well this makes sense then as to why there are still baby creatures running around in the test centers. At first I thought it was because they were lazy, but now. hrm.



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jopenack
Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:07 am
#10

It is because they are lazy lol


Like the ca's and loot drops that have been here since beta that have no use.


They won't remove or change the babies untill it's convenient, right now doing so would require alot of time and effort. besides its good spin to keep a few ch's here who are gullable enough to believe even more lies.


Forget ch, they have, trust me.





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TEMPEST MTK/MD - WANDERHOME MT/MM -???-???

"Creature Handlers are not 1% of the population, they are over the 50% mark, the 1% excuse is a flat out lie"
KzinKiller
Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:02 am
#11

Oh yeah, they've only been 'temporarily' removed until they can figure out a better solution.

Like, for instance, Battlefields were?

Hold my breath, this one will not.




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Grambacca
Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:28 am
#12






jopenack wrote:

Yes we all know about this and most of us don't believe them.


They will never take it off the shelf not when they can use that time for an expansion.


Want to know why we don't believe them, hmm how about the new babies and taming necklace. How about all the other lies and manipulation they used to string people along for years here.


When they fire the liars and hire honarable people this could change. People are not leaving because they eliminated ch as much as they are leaving because the lies out number the truths here.


I don't know why I even try and explain things in these threads, seems we get two a day here since this started. Sorry no offense but its just kinda old hash now. If you want to hope and believe them I guess you can lol, unfortunatly nothing much would really stop the people who have cancelled they're acounts. Its the camel and the straw thing if you know what I mean.









Gotta agree 100% with Jopenack on this one.


I'm not going to believe a word of it.







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Notjedi3
Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:12 pm
#13

After they said it's not Star Warsy, that might or not happen. I have posted that same question on NGE forum in the General Discussion. I don't see any reply from developers on our board, nor on that post on NGE. With all this feedback the team is probably discussing with the Big Nasty Bosses that are most likely to blame. You see, like someone said, they probably don't want to see this game ruined, but Marketing and Comercial people might force some very unpopular decisions in.
I hope we are strong enough, to give them enough strengh so they can convince them not to reduce so much the variety of professions at least.


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