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Thread: MCH and MSL?

Orrybecca
Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:47 pm
#1


Hello Squad Leaders,


Sorry to bother you but I have a question. I am a MCH and was wondering if Squad Leader would be something I could also do? My guild does not have any Squad Leaders at the moment and I thought that I may be able to fill that roll. I have not really looked into it much, so I don't know if it is even possible. Thanks for any feedback




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Kharast
Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:08 pm
#2



sure you could do it. mastering both CH and SL would leave 38 points left over. your combat effectiveness would be low, however. SL does not grant any attack specials, though you would get some from Ranged Support 4 in Marksman.


if you wanted to use those left over skill points on a ranged prof, you could get 1 tree in Pistoleer, Carbineer, or Rifleman. arguably your better bet for combat would be some Bounty Hunter since you already have the prerequisite skills. this would allow more efficient use of points. you could get 1 full tree and then half of the other two BH trees. if you went this route you would want to pick from the 3 combat BH trees, not invest. these give general ranged accuracy and speed mods and general defences as well as combat specials.


or, you could go for some medic. pick up 0430 and you'd be a Squad Leading, Creature Handling, Healing machine!

Message Edited by Kharast on 07-08-2005 02:09 PM



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Orrybecca
Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:12 pm
#3

Is it possable to be both a MCH and a MSL?




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ArchiieBarrett
Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:18 pm
#4

do you have a death wish?



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Orrybecca
Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:24 pm
#5

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.




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BadChef
Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:25 pm
#6

Ya, if you go that route, best to accept being support and get some healing. Creature meat shields, volley fire and rally, and some healing, good stuff. You wouldnt be able to solo much though.




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theorb22
Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:42 pm
#7

It's possible, but archie is right, SL isn't meant to be as good with their pistols as pistoleer or something is going to be, and CH doesn't help matters. Plus most of the mods for SL are either broken or don't apply to pets or it makes no sense for them to be applied, all in all, it's not something i'd consider for a fun template.


Then again, If I had had any common sense, I wouldn't of chosen CH/Commando either, I kept thinking that commando's would get specials right after the CU was released, but although it is still pretty fun (One of my pets just soloed a 15 man GCW crackdown squad with a novatrooper, how it did that i'll never know) it's still lacking in strength, unless of course I haven't been paying attention and my pet soloing a CL 83 novatrooper while 15 other NPC shot at it is normal....





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cydonia
Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:27 pm
#8






Orrybecca wrote:


Hello Squad Leaders,


Sorry to bother you but I have a question. I am a MCH and was wondering if Squad Leader would be something I could also do? My guild does not have any Squad Leaders at the moment and I thought that I may be able to fill that roll. I have not really looked into it much, so I don't know if it is even possible. Thanks for any feedback




I am not trying to flame or be mean but.... IMO thats the worst template in the game period. SL is 90% broken and CH is vastly underpowered.... "meatshield" is the only thing that comes to mind with this template.




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captiansarcasmo
Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:49 pm
#9






cydonia wrote:

SL is 90% broken


thats totally accurate.. thanks for spreading around the falsehood that we are useless. its hard enough for us to get any respect because people are uneducated about our abilities and strengths. maybe try it yourself. if you had you would'nt say b.s. like that.



orrybecca - you'll have a hard time getting positive feedback on your template cause its not uber.your template looks like a lot of FUN -BECAUSE ITS A SUPPORT TEMPLATE. i have a similar SUPPORT template MSL/MCM /medic 0440 /novice rifles - and i get alot of "god that template sucks yer gonna get pwnd" from the kiddies. well thats fine they can go solo something while i'm healing dragging rezing volley rallying my team to VICTORY!! (and still hitting consistantly for 700pts with my badass msl weapons)


the only downside to such an awesome group support template is i'm in tell hell cause everyone wants me in thier group.



jailyn

KJFett3
Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:40 pm
#10






captiansarcasmo wrote:





cydonia wrote:

SL is 90% broken


thats totally accurate.. thanks for spreading around the falsehood that we are useless. its hard enough for us to get any respect because people are uneducated about our abilities and strengths. maybe try it yourself. if you had you would'nt say b.s. like that.



orrybecca - you'll have a hard time getting positive feedback on your template cause its not uber.your template looks like a lot of FUN -BECAUSE ITS A SUPPORT TEMPLATE. i have a similar SUPPORT template MSL/MCM /medic 0440 /novice rifles - and i get alot of "god that template sucks yer gonna get pwnd" from the kiddies. well thats fine they can go solo something while i'm healing dragging rezing volley rallying my team to VICTORY!! (and still hitting consistantly for 700pts with my badass msl weapons)


the only downside to such an awesome group support template is i'm in tell hell cause everyone wants me in thier group.




While he is inacurate about his %, you are in la la land yourself as well. Sure, SL is a good profession when used right. I can ride a horse across my state as well, but its not the best way to do it, and I certainly wont settle for that. SL has a way to go before the abilities in it are up to where they should be. Stop settling for "okay". We spend the same SP as the other "uber" templates. It's not so much to ask that we be something in that ballpark at least. Its guys like you that slam on those that are frustrated with the profession that are dragging out our ever getting fixed. Devs come in here and see your posts and think its all fine when it is not all fine, and they need to fix us. When the devs admit they don't know what to do with us, the last thing we need is guys coming in her saying everyhting is fine. The devs don't need any encouragement in the feild of dismissing SL.




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Darth_Sushi
Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:51 pm
#11







KJFett3 wrote:

The devs don't need any encouragement in the feild of dismissing SL.




Yes, well you can rest assured they shan't be receiving any from me.






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KJFett3
Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:57 pm
#12






Darth_Sushi wrote:







KJFett3 wrote:

The devs don't need any encouragement in the feild of dismissing SL.




Yes, well you can rest assured they shan't be receiving any from me.






Awsome! Keep up the good fight!




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captiansarcasmo
Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:20 pm
#13


well


1. the devs don't come to the forums so thats moot


2. if they did the first thing they would see is some moron going "none of our specials work! nothing works! wha wha wha! we get nothing!!!". the dev might then say..."these guys don't need any fixes, they need to learn how to play their proffession! what a bunch of whiners!" and troll on back to the jedi boards.


3. quit chasing me.


4. i come here to help as well. to hear and make suggestions on how to make my proff better. not to just complain about what i think does or doesn't work up to mypersonalstandards.


5. and now i'm going to leave cause i'm tired of hearing this crap from you all over these boards (funny i didn't see you here 2 months ago)


i used to like the sl forum cause we kept it together even when everyone else was crying the sky is falling.there now seems to be a lot ofdabblers and respec sl.i guess it won't last too long. i'll be back sushi..




jailyn

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