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Thread: CH Worth it now?

TheDarkTrumpet
Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:28 am
#1

I just logged on and messed with my pets a bit...all of them had to be adjusted

One was a level 21, a 10k HA, 8k M with good resists. This was brought to level 41.

This mean...no longer can I have 2 pets out at a time, or 3 of this level....

In everyone's opinion, is it worth being a master CH now considering how much we've been gimped?



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InspGadgt
Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:42 am
#2

Wow you got lucky. When I adjusted my BE pets the first one I did was a lvl 50 cat with about 11k HAM. Did a level adjustment on that and it went to 218 !!!!! Impossible for anyone to ever use. So after that I did stat adjustments on all my pets...now my lvl 68 Kimo has only 5K HAM...



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MoactanTeel
Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:58 pm
#3

Flip side of that is my Level 40 BE Gurrecktook less than 2 minutes to die at the hands of a mighty Perlek. The Perlek also ignored him as a tank and kicked my arse at the same time. Well, in less time in fact.



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velm
Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:37 pm
#4


Is rifleman still worth it? how about Swordsman, is it still worth it?


It all depends on what a person wants. By my estimate, we have been in the new combat system for about 14 hours or so. Is that really enough time to give a good enough evaluation of it? Not to me.


Before the CU, I had fun. I liked to go out and get me animals. Maybe, I am just an animal person at heart, who knows. Post CU, I have had a difficult time doing anything as I keep on losing connection for some reason, other than when I logged on before work. I think it is the servers and not my connection, as it usually is the other way around.


I understand that, like i said elsewhere, if a person takes two elite combat profs, they will be considered an 80 lvl character with a little over 3k health. I see people upset about the fact that creatures are now reduced in ham and damage. Yes, I agree, it is annoying seeing that happen. But, when I see my pet with 6k health that is doing 95 -310 dam, it really is not as bad as it sounds. Even against someone lvl 80, if it hits for 310 damage 5 times, that is 1,550 dam. It will be roughly half that persons health. Am I going to just stand there and watch? Not likely, me and my Master Rifleman self will take out my Assault Bowcaster and do a few specials on that person.


Take that same pet, that is lvl 50 and duel a person who is lvl 25 and see what happens. Take that pet that is lvl 61 and duel someone who is lvl 55 and see what happens.


As far as PVE goes, I am fairly confident that if I could take out lairs before unbuffed, unarmored as a Master Rifleman/Master Creature Handler, I can take out lairs now. It will just need a bit of adjusting to see how the specials will work and how to use my pet(s) to the best of their abilities.


I like to use this crazy thing called 'stratergy' ( that is a SNL term, btw. I love that one.) when I take out lairs. With a templete like the one I just respected to:


MCH


Master Rifleman


3/0/1/3 BH


I have access to powerful weapons and powerful specials.


I see this combat upgrade as a step forward. yes, there are bugs, getting disconnected now, losing my wp's and a few others, but if one is willing to look past these growing pains, they can see that it is a step in the right direction.


Patience and adjustingwill be required.


To those that are disgusted, and wish to cancel those accounts. So be it. But, I can say that the people you leave behind will sorely miss you in the game. I know a few people who have left, not due to the CU, and it saddens me to not see those people in game anymore.

DeevBach
Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:53 pm
#5

CH is officially dead. I've been a master since before the great nerf and after a couple hours had to drop it altogether. The conversion of pets is rediculous and combine that with the HATE system, well that was just the final straw. It pained me to give up on a profession that I really enjoyed for over a year and a half, but there are only so many times they can screw over a profession before it's just time to give up on it.



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TheGreatFreyr
Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:10 pm
#6

i might respec to mch and gather up a few pets for my jedi grind, need a little gank squad for myself that wont give me vis, been a long time since i was ch.....



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Meuw
Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:23 pm
#7

I will soon tire I think from people crying about not being able to have lvl 70 stats on a lvl 20 frame anymore. I frankly dont share your petty concerns. respec them by stats and be done with it. This type of complaining over not being allowed to circumvent the system has clouded the issues request lines long enough don't you think? I personally have over 200 BE pets that will now need to be respec'd and so therefore are basically worth not even half what they may have been. So the fact that a few people may have to remake their triple tandem pet team because they are so spoiled they HAD to respec by level does little to make my heart bleed for them.


There have been a ton of posts discussing this conversion since the TC transfer servers opened. So people knew what was involved in this and the risk of respecing by level. This is not a "gimp", it is a rebalance. One of the only things about the CU that actually balances anything. Over-powered, under-leveled pets are gone, and it is a good day to see them go.



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DeevBach
Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:16 pm
#8

Excuse me "petty concerns", I've been a MCH for longer than you've been registered pally. When the big nerf came I stuck with it. I figured out how to make CH work as a viable hunting profession teaming it with Rifleman. I've enjoyed this template for over a year now. I did my research, custom ordered the best BE pets to fit my needs, and have done very well with it. I don't see anyone trying to circumvent the system either, I see a lot of pissed off people that have had their datapads destroyed over night.


Things I've done that I can live without : soloing a giant krayt, nightsister elder, AT-ST, Lord Nyax, Ackley, Sith Thugs.

Things that I looked forward to keeping : being able to actually go hunting with my pets - gone



Deev Bach - Intrepid
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jopenack
Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:42 pm
#9

To the original poster, is it worth it, trick question lol


From what I experienced tonight the creatures vs con is still out of balance. our pets are also out of balance.


People should expect much change soon too. Some are getting overly excited at some uber pets they have


From what I have seen with mine a lvl 31-35 petsgot chewed up by grey conned mission creatures while lvl 42-45 pets chewed the grey cons up, sure its difference of 10 roughly in lvl but these are grey cons and considering I wiped the floor with some and on another planet got my butt handed to me and needed a rez it tells me somthing is wrong here lol I was soloing also each time.


is it worth hmm depends on you lol as far combat goes way too early to tell.





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DRACORESS
Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:47 pm
#10


lol...LOOK I went out for 2 hrs and restated some of my pets as it required me...some were brought down...some weren't....blah blah


Basic strag now....send in your pets.....let them chew on the target for a bit......then hit the target for all you are worth!!!!! down goes you target....your pet heals itself...you go to the next target....basically the same stratg as before except that the hate system will pick you most likely over your pet.....but when it does...your pets are still hitting it....i don't know about you but my pets were doing decent damage....better that they used to seems to me...maybe because everything is ...hmmm....balanced...


I really don't see the reason for griping...some bugs need to be tweeked...sure....but overall...seems good to me.



I'll take this over the old system anyday.



I think the whole thing is much more fun

Devero
Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:39 am
#11

Find the posts where people were testing pets in combat. Some pets have quite high regen rates. And one guy's pet took a jedi Knight down 3/4 health before getting incapped.. 1 on 1. Could NEVER have done that Pre-CU.



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