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Thread: Best Wild 3'Some Ever?

Moakie
Mon May 16, 2005 10:10 am
#40

Ok I have a question about using multiple pets instead of one high level one.


I pulled a lvl 22 GSP and a lvl 15 BE Wrix (both converted from before CU). They both have around 3000 and do 268 dmg at 2.0 attack speed.


Now I realize that going up against a something like lvl 50 would be painful with them. But it was more than that, they lost health so quick they were dead in oh 20 seconds per pet. Now I'm wondering if the lvl thing effects pets as it does players? So when I'm lvl 20 I'm gonna die almost instantly to a lvl 50, but if I were lvl 50 doing a lvl 50 it wouldn't even be close in comparison to say 3 narglach that add up to (in this example) lvl 50.


Now with that said I think I have a delema, are my old pets that I tamed long before the CU no longer correct in lvl or health? Is that my problem? Or is CH still useless with multiple pets, and just one big pet is the way to go?





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Lanni_Istari
Mon May 16, 2005 10:28 am
#41






WarWidow wrote:
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Fury, Wrath, Scorn...cool names (from above post). I need to decide what I will name mine. They will help me hunt NOOB padawans.

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I named mine, Calista, Europa and Ganymede.




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WarWidow
Mon May 16, 2005 10:34 am
#42

Level will always play a factor is this game now. I have seen varied battle tests with lower vs higher level pets. Anything stronger you will hurt you more to a point.

Yes, my lower level BE cats do go down quicker to a high level opponents/creatures, but take this into account. Use pet food that can help increase regenerate rate of your pets health, this will help to a point. Plus you can heal pets with stims.

The reason the 3 Narg-sister assault team is so appealing is this: You feed them all regeneration food. Once they join you as a group, your looking at a trio assault team with a total of 23k HAM and each Narg can do 321 max damage. Now, with the hate system in place (which I hate to a point) Your ladies are going to cause mass confusion and inflict damage at the same time holding and breaking agro. PvP will vary, but PvE will have the pets holding agro while you inflict damage to help keep your team alive when the agro tables turn. They will get hurt, it will happen, but it will always be 4 against whatever. You can even have a Probot join with you too if needed.

I look forward to adult testing.





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Portabelle
Mon May 16, 2005 11:07 am
#43






Moakie wrote:

Now with that said I think I have a delema, are my old pets that I tamed long before the CU no longer correct in lvl or health? Is that my problem? Or is CH still useless with multiple pets, and just one big pet is the way to go?







Well I know that all the uber BE pets I had prior to CU either became unusable if I tried to keep their stats or became weaklings with low health , damage and resists if they were converted to the "average" stats for their levels. The one thing that seems to be true is all my old BE pets have a "To Hit" stat of ZERO and based on the new "Pet Damage Forumula" thread that puts them at a great disadvantage.Wild pets of the same level have an actual "To Hit" bonus number which is factored into their actual damage delivery. So my level 55 BE Rancor while it has decent dmg stats has ZERO to hit and can only do on average much less damage than my wild tamed level 54 Merek which has a "To Hit" bonus number of 128.


That being the case I have been slowly releasing my old BE pets and taming the new wild high level pets as I can find them. The Blood Frenzied Boar Wolf is my highest recent tame at CL68 and it has a "To Hit" bonus of 165. The MCH Kashyyyk Varactyl quest pet which is a CL65 has a "To Hit:" bonus of 157. So the higher CL...the higher the "To Hit" bonus number it appears. My 3 Female Narglatches while they are elite and have the great 7718 Health stat...they still have the standardCL22 "To Hit" bonus of 71. So that may mean their actual damage will not be much better than a non-elite CL 22 however.... and this is a big difference....that extra HEALTH will keep them standing and fighting much longer beating down the mob than a regular CL 22 will.


I really hate to see my old Pre-CU pets go....and I will probably keep the more sentimental or unique ones....but I have a feeling that with the CU changes, finding and taming new elite and high level pets will result in the best combat pets for MCH. I will be very interested to see what kinds of results a good BE can get with the post CU creatures.





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Moakie
Mon May 16, 2005 11:34 am
#44

This MCH Kashyyyk Varactyl quest you speak of, who do I start the quest from?


I see what happened, GSPs got nerfed. in wild. On the swgcreatures site it has same stats as mine that was from before the CU. That sucks. They should be a higher health than 3000 =( I mean that's almost useless.


Or I guess not so much nerfed, they just provided more variety in health to cl ratio.. Which I hate to see the GSP go.. I mean 3k health is like useless practically. I've tried, and it almost is.



So what food people using? I now looked at practically all the food on the bazaar. I bought some sweetbloosom, and fed it to my GSP. Sent him into combat but couldn't tell a big difference on his regen, which it's 20% bonus to health regen and 10% bonus to health. Are there only certain foods that are pet foods and work on them? Or any food work?





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WarWidow
Tue May 17, 2005 12:08 am
#45

A Master Chef should be able to crafte good food that will help. I am stcuk at work right now. I'll have to post tomorrow morning what the food is called in my inventory...damn I can't remember the name right now.

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InspGadgt
Tue May 17, 2005 3:11 pm
#46

After over a year of being a CH I found my first Grand Wrix yesterday! Now to go looking for 2 more cats to compliment it...I'd love to find some Greater Sludge Panthers...any idea where the best place to find them is? Usually I don't look for wild animals and use BEs for the most part...but now I'm gonna try a trio of naturals.



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Barafu
Wed May 18, 2005 12:29 am
#47



Moakie wrote:

So what food people using? I now looked at practically all the food on the bazaar. I bought some sweetbloosom, and fed it to my GSP. Sent him into combat but couldn't tell a big difference on his regen, which it's 20% bonus to health regen and 10% bonus to health. Are there only certain foods that are pet foods and work on them? Or any food work?






There are foods that are pet only. People foods fed to a pet will only cure them of wounds and not cause any other effects. People cannot eat pet foods. You can find a list of the new foods here. The best pet food seems to be sweesonberry rolls.



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Imreanna
Thu May 19, 2005 4:02 am
#48

My girls are named:


Ara

Chi and

Leum



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Portabelle
Thu May 19, 2005 11:21 pm
#49






Moakie wrote:

This MCH Kashyyyk Varactyl quest you speak of, who do I start the quest from?








There is a Rodian Huntingcamp just outside Kachiro on Kashyyyk. Talk to the little guy at the far right side of the camp. He is standing by a tent and has a Varactyl pet next to him. He will tell you about Jagged Fang and her egg. You will find Jagged Fang further down the path past the hunting camp. Just keep on the right side of the hill when you come to a little openvalley full of varactyls. Jagged Fang and her nest are at the very back of the valley area. She is not tough to solo at CL 80 with a good pet but just make sure you kill the 2 guardian varactyls next to her first if you can. I had all 3 on me at once and they incapped me and my pet....but after my incap timer wore off I just stored the pet that was down and pulled out a fresh one, healed myself and then finished them off. Go to the nest and pick up the egg....hatch it and your baby varactyl will start to grow



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Ekacfeeb
Fri May 20, 2005 1:30 am
#50

I got 2 naglatches atm, but can I team them up with another kittie?


Or would the other kittie just be useless?



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Denmha
Fri May 20, 2005 1:50 am
#51

Got the girls last night - two lairs were about 300m away from the waypoints stated. I was lucky enough to pick one up about 1500m the other side of Keren on my way there, no lair, just a random spawn. Then I was gutted when the first lair I came to had another CH at it, who had also only found one baby. Then my trusty wook ranger turned up and we found another lair pretty quick - took a couple of taps but we got two out, then left the lair for someone else.


Now Veni, Vidi, and Vici are sat in the datapad. Excellent.





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Fuelsean
Fri May 20, 2005 6:34 am
#52






Ekacfeeb wrote:

I got 2 naglatches atm, but can I team them up with another kittie?


Or would the other kittie just be useless?





The thing that makes this trio viable is the "Elite" status and having them all be the same stats. Pairing them with a different pet with lower stats would mean that the aggro would only be spread between the 2 girls, instead of all three (aggro goes to the most DPS and spreads around for equal DPS if I'm not mistaking).



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