Creature Handler Archive
Thread: Level 1 rancor? help please...
MrHawat wrote:
Well, technically, this is an exploit. It is taking advantage of a bug in the game and that is an exploit. It is no different than using the server boundries to call all of your pets out at one time. This bug was caused by the BE update publish. When a BE creates a pet deed the actual pet is not generated with the stats of the deed until it is tamed. Since all of the BE pets were overhauled and changed in the publish any deed created prior to the publish but not trained from deed until after the publish stays at level 1 because the stats on the deed were for the old creature database and do not match with the new one.
You can split hairs on the exploit part. I have seen non-ch with level 50 gurrecks and rancors out. I have seen Novice CH with management 3 with 2 rancors out and I have seen Masters with 3 level 50 gurrecks out. All of which is exploiting. So, if you can not controlthat level of normal pet, you are exploiting. If you can control that level and use it as if it was that level.... then no, you are not exploiting. It is the exploiters that are willing to pay millions for this type of creature. I do not think there are enough of them out there for SOE to devote the time to trying to fix. I do think that if a CSR sees you with 3 level 50's out at once you will be told about it.
EvilNerf wrote:
they where made to be legitimate. but they ended up being Lvl 1. If you can find find proof that the Devs meant to make all those animals lvl 1 then I will cancel my account today. They are a Bug. I might have been a bit harsh when I said that their creation was an exploit. The creation was an accident that has since been exploited by the players.
I just want an official ( SOE ) statement aboutthem or like an above poster said, when start the exploit.
EvilNerf wrote:
they where made to be legitimate. but they ended up being Lvl 1. If you can find find proof that the Devs meant to make all those animals lvl 1 then I will cancel my account today. They are a Bug. I might have been a bit harsh when I said that their creation was an exploit. The creation was an accident that has since been exploited by the players.
OK first of all - I'm new to the CH profession (but not the game). That being said... I would hardly call this an exploit. If it was an exploit and the devs wanted these creatures gone.. guess what.. he wouldnt have it (or it wouldnt be useable). It's quite easy for the devs to modify anything they dont want people to use.
Example.. soon after the initial release of the game there was an instance where low-level meatlumps and similar NPC's were dropping really good laser rifles as loot. When they fixed the bug.. guess what.. I still had my rifle but everytime I equipped it, I got a message that said something like "This weapon is beyond your range and is no longer effective" (or something like that). This was for anyone who used the rifles.. no matter what their level. Meaning that I could still use it.. but it wasnt worth anything but change from a junk dealer (which we didnt have at the time).
NinjaPizzaBoy wrote:
I can't believe half of the things I'm reading here...
Here's how to tell if something is an exploit!
Use the word "fair" in a sentence concerning both points.
I'll do it for the problem here:
Is it fair that a Creature Handler must spend 106 skill points to call a rancor and a guy can buy a rancor and use it with zero skill points?
Be honest, and you'll see if it's an exploit or not.
You need to be at least novice CH to use a level 1 (0) pet.
PS : if I use the word "fair" in my sentence Rifleman fire speed should be capped at 3sec, CM should be removed from the game and so on...this game is all but fair.