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Thread: Vert, is this new 'incap recovery' thing for pub9 the vit loss thing TH told you to tell us?

DaBudo2
Thu May 27, 2004 11:19 am
#14

I'm really, really trying to remain positive here. A long time ago I decided I would no longer post anything negative (mostly I've succeeded :smileytongue. But to quote Trando, huh? Because this "incap recovery" thing is sounding like a bunch of hooey to me. If it's just bringing the pet back from being incapacitated, big whoopee. I don't even need to use stims for that, because that pet is going back into my datapad anyway. And what's the point of restoring it to 1 HAM??? All I'm going to do with that pet is, again,store it.


If it does prevent vitality loss, that's a small thing but it issomething. Though the only way my pet gets killed is if I'm in a situation where I can't call it off and run away. Which means I've been killed/incapped and won't be able to revive my pet before it revives on its own. *sigh*




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BlindTyldak
Thu May 27, 2004 2:44 pm
#15

From the best I can figure from the description, Vert, it sounds like something that can't be done after a DB; it sounds like if your pet is incapped, and you are out of stims, you can "wake it up" before putting it manually in your datapad itself, instead of waiting for it to fade into there on its own and take the vit loss from a non-recovered incap. If this still happens . . . I haven't let a pet "die" in months.


Still sounds like a bunch of hooey to me. I'll take the vit loss on occasion if my pets would get off my ass and stay in the game when they're supposed to. And now they're ignoring commands and slowing down again.


~~The Secondhand Lion


Vertexon
Thu May 27, 2004 2:57 pm
#16

Yeah, the idea of the pet taking a vitality hit rendering this command unuseable is something I've considered. Since pets usually fight at melee range, though, and anything that's going to DB will do so instantly if it's at melee range with your pet... I'm not sure why this new feature would be useful to anyone.


Presumably if you forgot to bring pet stims with you, this would be an alternative to just storing your pet after it has been incapped (but not DBed). But if you don't have any pet stims, what good is a pet going to do you at 1 HAM? Unlike players or droids with self-repair modules, the pet won't slowly auto-heal outside of the datapad. Very puzzling.



-Vertexon.
BlindTyldak
Thu May 27, 2004 4:55 pm
#17

The only way it would be "useful" would be if you or another pet are fighting alongside the one that becomes incapped, distracting the mob so that they don't deliver the DB. But I know that was never, ever, EVERa concern of mine in PvE, and in PvP, the person would make a conscious decision to deliver the DB regardless. It's not like you could revive it and store it before the DB, because of the 60 second combat timer.

~~The Secondhand Lion
taloncard
Thu May 27, 2004 5:26 pm
#18

OOOOOOOOHHHHH
Pretty new command...
That should shut up the whynie CH's about how we give them no love, who cares that it is as useless as formations




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TrandoshanDroidTech
Thu May 27, 2004 5:33 pm
#19






taloncard wrote:
OOOOOOOOHHHHH
Pretty new command...
That should shut up the whynie CH's about how we give them no love, who cares that it is as useless as formations





That wouldn't count in my book because it seems very useless, so, until theres some proof that it is something awesome, this should not count as ;giving ch some love' , just a tiny little ant step



Danwwgh/Bria

Master Rifleman/MCH
Vertexon
Thu May 27, 2004 7:07 pm
#20

FWIW, having the pet just take a regular incap (with no DB) didn't seem to make a difference. I let an injured kwi incap my lesser plains bol. No vitality loss, and no new radial menu options. I'm just guessing that this would be something on the radial menu, because I think I've checked every other likely place.



-Vertexon.
taloncard
Thu May 27, 2004 7:10 pm
#21

I got it It was made by the same people that made the emperors new clothes.

Only "special" people can figure out how to use it




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BlindTyldak
Thu May 27, 2004 10:59 pm
#22

Did your lesser plains bol store to the datapad with no vit loss on its own? Maybe it's not an option, like they say, but it'll just do that on its own now? Then you can recall it as soon as your combat timer clocks out, and it will come back to 1 HAM for healing. I don't know. Still sounds foolish.


~~The Secondhand Lion


KzinKiller
Fri May 28, 2004 9:42 am
#23

Do you ever get the impression that it's literally illegal to provide good documentation of software edits in California?




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Seiryuu
Fri May 28, 2004 9:58 am
#24

Do you ever get the impression that it's literally illegal to provide good documentation of software edits in California?

Then Cryptic is gonna get soooo busted. Maybe they get around that by having their publisher located in Texas? ^^



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Vertexon
Fri May 28, 2004 11:42 am
#25






BlindTyldak wrote:

Did your lesser plains bol store to the datapad with no vit loss on its own? Maybe it's not an option, like they say, but it'll just do that on its own now? Then you can recall it as soon as your combat timer clocks out, and it will come back to 1 HAM for healing. I don't know. Still sounds foolish.


~~The Secondhand Lion








I waited a few minutes, hoping maybe a radial option would appear. I stored it manually from the Datapad after that. Pets have always woken up on their own, though. Not sure why that would be considered something new in this build, if you're correct.



-Vertexon.
BlindTyldak
Fri May 28, 2004 5:14 pm
#26

Not always . . . I've had pets store to the datapad after an incap (and yes, I know it was an incap, it was fighting non-DB critters) after I think its 5 minutes and they lose vitality. My guess, because it didn't happen all the time, is that it was based on how much damage "extra" they took during that last hit, if it was enough for them to recover from, or if they just stayed down until you could heal them. It was always much weaker pets than what I was fighting, like a day old kaadu against a humbaba or something like that, when I was training for Master.


~~The Secondhand Lion


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