Creature Handler Archive
Thread: CH are the best puller! Exploit?
MasterMic wrote:
Let's pull Acklay without entering the Geonosian dungeon!
Let's put NS Elder also without entering the NS Cave!
Let's pull Commander without going out the first room in the corvette (since CU, range cannot attack throught walls
What can I pull in DeathWatch from outside?
Yes it's possible! Mob can cross terrain/wall/doors/...
Is it still not an exploit?
this is crowd control, and is what ch is supposed to do.
the fact that the eq code allows you to do it through walls is the devs fault
i don't think the will rewrite the game to prevent this from happening , so the only option would be to take it away from ch, and make us 106sp "bleeders".....
thanx for bringing this to their attention..lol
MasterMic wrote:
hossp wrote:
MasterMic wrote:
Let's pull Acklay without entering the Geonosian dungeon
Let's put NS Elder also without entering the NS Cave!
Let's pull Commander without going out the first room in the corvette (since CU, range cannot attack throught walls
What can I pull in DeathWatch from outside
Yes it's possible! Mob can cross terrain/wall/doors/...
Is it still not an exploit?
this is crowd control, and is what ch is supposed to do.
the fact that the eq code allows you to do it through walls is the devs fault
i don't think the will rewrite the game to prevent this from happening , so the only option would be to take it away from ch, and make us 106sp "bleeders".....
thanx for bringing this to their attention..lol
You're welcome
I want the less bug as possible in the game I play... sorry for thus who prefer exploiting instead of saying "There! There is a bug and I won't be a RoXXoR anymore if you correct it!".
It seems here that the only bug is the mob passing throw walls, and if they correct that for the all game, everybody will be very very happy
No matter if we could not pull Acklay from outside anymore
i agree you should not be able to pull through walls, i have not even tried it, i'm taking your word on this..but ch is supposed to be able to seperate mobs from a group..it is our only tactical advantage...
#1seperating is not an exploit.....
#2pulling through walls is...
the unfortunate thing is to stop #2, they will probably have to remove #1..leaving us with no tatical advantage
I suppose it depends on how you define "exploit". I doubt that it's what the devs intended, and I expect some day they'll get around to fixing it. So, if it's an exploit because it's not what was intended then there you go.
It's kind of sad, though, that the role of CH has been reduced to that of pulling mobs.We're sort ofaJudas goat for the game. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we can pull mobs. It's just that it doesn't quite fit the idea of "Jack of all Trades" that I imagined we'd be.
DaBudo2 wrote:I suppose it depends on how you define "exploit". I doubt that it's what the devs intended, and I expect some day they'll get around to fixing it. So, if it's an exploit because it's not what was intended then there you go.
It's kind of sad, though, that the role of CH has been reduced to that of pulling mobs. We're sort of a Judas goat for the game. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we can pull mobs. It's just that it doesn't quite fit the idea of "Jack of all Trades" that I imagined we'd be.
If it is eventually classed as an exploit, it will be an exploit along the lines of the bike shuttle fix thing, si I wouldnt worry about it.
I agree with the above post to an extent, the 'jack of all trades' comment was in the design docs for our profession, clearly saying we could fulfill any roll depending on the pet used.
My guess , call me an optomist, is that specials are what will define a pets roll, its the only thing that would make sense of that statement.
They have stated its a bug they arent there, my guess is when specials return, they wont be quite the same as we used to have, like the last year and a half, its wait and see time.
Message Edited by valetman on 05-11-2005 04:14 PM
MasterMic wrote:
I think all CH here tried to single pull a mob up to 100m using /tellpet attack; /tellpet followMe; without having a line of sight on it.
I also used it to pull mob inside the Geonosian dongeon from outside! If it is on your radar, it's pullable from outside, just use tab key to target it.
But, I would like to know if it is an exploit or not. If there is a bug or not. I'm not a cheater (mob will not complain lol) so I would like to know.
Well ch have always been able to pull in this matter.
The real question you have is that is it an exploit to tell a pet to run to a mob you do not have LOS to.
Well you always could. They altered LOS for the CU fo rranged attacked.
This is not a ranged attack so it probably does not hit that code on purpose.
Is it an exploit? I would say no.
Will the dev;'s change it? maybe who knows.
In groups, I've been the puller, but a CM has done this as well. He tosses one of those deuterium fire DOT canisters at an individual, gets its attention, and runs over to the group, which then dispatches the target.
Best I can tell, this is how it's supposed to be done, it's a good tactic for taking on high level social mobs.
Finally, I was not able to pull Ackaly when I tried yesterday. It seems we need a clear path between mob and pet to pull.
I was outside, just on the top of Acklay room, I was able to target it (100m) but it did not agro my pet, and my pet did not agro it when I command 'attack'. In fact, the pet and the mob did not find a way to agro each other... and they did not tried to cross the walls
Just at the entrance, I can pull whatever I can target and none ofmobs crossed walls. They all followed tunnels (they should know all the pass-code for doors ) that is normal and logical.
In fact, while the repop time will be short, pulling dungeon will not be usefull to clean the way without having adds even for XP.
I will try in the Corvette because it should be different since mob do not repop while the quest leader in the group is not killed.
Since the CU, wehave more and more CHon servers, I hope devs will give the"Puller profession" title to us and for that, I hope CL10 pet won't be able to pullas good as our CL11-70 pets... BE can createvery good CL10 pet, so evrybody can pull as good as CH and it's a mess for us.
Ok,pets can tank also butit's not the primary class for this role.