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Thread: Rare Pet Statistical Analysis (Rare Collectors this is a must read)

Stakk-Galaxian
Fri May 07, 2004 10:22 am
#14

I have hunted almost all rares but these are the only ones I have any good information for:

Name of rare hunted for: Arachne Widow Baby
Number of Lairs Search: 230 ish
Number of Babies Spawned: 1
Closest guess of total Parental types killed: 55 widows, 24 queens
Number of Babies Tamed: 1
Whether the Mission can be found on Terminals: No
Server of CH character: FarStar
Any sighting after server reboot: NO
Any Sighting Before server shutdown: NO
Best guess as to time of day you sighted any babies: was very dark, so sometime during the night.


Name of rare hunted for: Swamp Stalker Baby
Number of Lairs Search: n/a
Number of Babies Spawned: 3
Closest guess of total Parental types killed: 20
Number of Babies Tamed: 2
Whether the Mission can be found on Terminals: No
Server of CH character: FarStar
Any sighting after server reboot: NO
Any Sighting Before server shutdown: NO
Best guess as to time of day you sighted any babies: during the day
Have you ever been KS'd while sighting a baby: one time an adult spawned 3 or 4 secconds after the baby and killed the baby for no reason.


Name of rare hunted for: Frenzied Graul
Closest guess of total Parental types killed: 30 (this was in 1 evening btw!!)
Number of Lairs Search: quite a few, have seen lairs with up to 5 adults.
I know that FGs are rumoured to be out of game, but all i want to do is see 1 adult on FarStar. My reason for making this entry is that on Chimera server where i have my medic/tka character I have seen and killed MANY adults, but if I look in the same place on FarStar server where i have my MCH there are NO CREATURES AT ALL FOR MILES AND MILES let alone any FGs. Spawning in swg is either very broken or noone has been able to understand how it is supposed to work, very VERY frustrating, thanks for reading.



Anoo
Rodian Master Creature Handler, Pistoleer and Tracker in the Farstar Galaxy
Tamed Rares: Arachne Widow, Swamp Stalker, Thune Grassland Guardian

Stakk Galaxian
Zabrak Medic and Teras Kasi Artist in the Chimaera Galaxy
Hashishin
Fri May 07, 2004 2:57 pm
#15


I systematically hunt for 4 rares:


1. Frenzied Grauls

2. Great Plains Stalkers

3. Bull Rancors

4. Arachnae widows


Of those, I'll only list the stats for one -- Frenzied Graul -- because I've kept a (sorta) count that approximates my search.


Name of rare hunted for: Frenzied Graul

Number of Lairs Search: 25

Number of Babies Spawned: 0

Number of singles, doubles, triples killed with no lair: 100-150

Number of Babies Spawned: 0

Closest guess of total Parental types killed: 250-300

Number of Babies Tamed: 0

Whether the Mission can be found on Terminals: No

Server of CH character: Starsider

Any sighting after server reboot: No

Any SightingBeforeserver shutdown: No

Best guess as to time of day you sighted any babies: None sighted

Lair resets:

Have you ever been KS'd while sighting a baby: Yes



What makes this most aggravating to me is not so much that I personally have not even seen a Frenzied baby, even tho I once spent 2 solid weeks on Dantooine at 4-6 hours per day killing adults, but that NO ONE on my server has even SEEN a baby -- much less tamed even one.


AND, I put in a ticket a month ago to check that the babies actually exist and received the reply that YES, they do.


I've yet to see any proof of that on SS.


I won't even go into Bull Rancor babies............. no one I know of has seen one of those either, much less myself (on my server)


York, Starsider
kscottgee
Fri May 07, 2004 9:26 pm
#16





Name of rare hunted for: Swamp Stalker

Number of Lairs Search: 5 solo spawns (no lair)

Number of Babies Spawned: 3

Closest guess of total Parental types killed: 15

Number of Babies Tamed: 2

Whether the Mission can be found on Terminals: No

Server of CH character: Flurry

Best guess as to time of day you sighted any babies: evening (EDT)

Lair resets: n/a

Have you ever been KS'd while sighting a baby: no



Name of rare hunted for: Rhoa Kwi Guardian

Number of Lairs Search: 2

Number of Babies Spawned:1

Closest guess of total Parental types killed: 10

Number of Babies Tamed: 1

Whether the Mission can be found on Terminals: ?

Server of CH character: Flurry

Best guess as to time of day you sighted any babies:afternoon (EDT)

Lair resets:no

Have you ever been KS'd while sighting a baby: no



Name of rare hunted for: Rhoa Kwi Pack Leader

Number of Lairs Search: 1 lair, 1 random spawn of adult group (no lair)

Number of Babies Spawned:2

Closest guess of total Parental types killed: 13

Number of Babies Tamed: 2

Whether the Mission can be found on Terminals: ?

Server of CH character: Flurry

Best guess as to time of day you sighted any babies: evening (EDT)

Lair resets: n/a

Have you ever been KS'd while sighting a baby: no, my commando frien valiantly gave his life keeping the adults occupied while I tamed the 1st baby.


I wasn't even looking for the 2nd Pack Leader. Was hunting Bull rancors, there was a random spawn of Rhoas close by. We were killing them as they attacked us. When we finished with the Bull Rancor lair, I noticed one yellow dot on my radar, when I targeted it, it was a baby Paclk Leader.





Kosh Jiddas Master Creature Handler RIP, Master Carbineer RIP, Rebel Ace Pilot
Farewell to my honored friends:
Kang-Great Plains Stalker Grod-Bull Rancor
Neroon-Lurking Shear Mite Elric- CL 65 BE'd Kima
Bele- Swamp Stalker Lokai- Swamp Stalker
Colenzo- Giant Angler Ventar Giant Crystal Snake
Kahn- Gaping Spider Recluse Merlin- Enraged Reptilian Flier
Lokutis- CL65 Varactyl Shadowfang- Karimuth Defiler
Andromeda- Rhoa Kwi Pack Leader
You all will be missed!
There is a reason only one Y-wing survived the battle of Yavin.
fantoq
Sat May 08, 2004 7:20 am
#17

Y'all know that your odds of finding one don't increase with the number of lairs? If one spawns 1% of the time, you face a 99% chance of not finding one every time.

Plus don't forget how many spawns go un-noticed by CHs. If no CH is around, the spawn isn't being recorded.


The proof's in the pudding. How many CHs have the rares is really the number we should be looking at. The problem is if most of them are getting killed by hunting parties, raising the numbers very much will make them common, not rare.



fantoq
MCH
former Medic
App. Carbineer
Society of Interplanetary Mercenaries[SIM]/ stargate/ naboo
ZonJaiNezBA
Sat May 08, 2004 3:23 pm
#18

Update:


I just did two Bull Rancor Lair missions.


On the first one. No, I repeat No, Bulls spawned from the lair, that is neither baby, nor adult. Only thing that spawned was 3 Rancors, 3 Rancor Youths, and 2 Gnarled Rancors.


The second one had one Bull out when I got there and a Rancor Youth. After that one Bull and Youth spawned, the Bull hit me with Plague. My hunting partner went down with three incaps from the ticks. I finished off the Bull with my screechers help, then while camping to heal up my action a bit since I was down to 1 on it. The lair despawned. No system message, nothing. The waypoint was still active, and my mission is still in my datapad but nothing is there.


I will edit my previous post with my new numbers.




BH Informant List. Condensed from a previous thread I made a few months back
DaBudo2
Sat May 08, 2004 7:26 pm
#19







fantoq wrote:

Y'all know that your odds of finding one don't increase with the number of lairs? If one spawns 1% of the time, you face a 99% chance of not finding one every time.

Plus don't forget how many spawns go un-noticed by CHs. If no CH is around, the spawn isn't being recorded.


The proof's in the pudding. How many CHs have the rares is really the number we should be looking at. The problem is if most of them are getting killed by hunting parties, raising the numbers very much will make them common, not rare.






Good point - you're just as likely to find a rare on the first try as you are on the 99th try. Wealready knowrares spawn rarely. But we don't know how many of us CH have been able to find a rare. I'd be very curious to know just what percentage of CH have actually tamed a rare - maybe see a break down by pet, i.e how many have a bull rancor, how many have a screecher, etc. Myself, I have no rares. The closest thing I have to a rare is an arachne web master *sigh*



I've said before: as far as I'm concerned there are no rares, they never spawn, and all of you who have rares are part of a great conspiracy to make poor shlobs like me waste countless hours looking for them

Message Edited by DaBudo2 on 05-09-2004 06:43 PM

Message Edited by DaBudo2 on 05-09-2004 06:45 PM



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Vertexon
Sat May 08, 2004 9:51 pm
#20

Yes, good points there. Most players do not read these forums. And among those who do... most non-CHs probably don't read the CH forum. When a baby bull rancor does spawn, the odds of any witnesses both recognizing its rarity and coming here totalk aboutit seem exceptionally low.



-Vertexon.
Bl3jd
Sun May 09, 2004 3:12 am
#21


Name of rare hunted for: Piket Longhorn

Number of Lairs Search: about 20

Number of Babies Spawned: 1

Closest guess of total Parental types killed: 0% (just got a mission, swooped by the lair to check for babies, next mission, abort missions, new missions. Would take ages to kill them)

Number of Babies Tamed: 1

Whether the Mission can be found on Terminals: Yes (Dantooine)

Server of CH character: Chimaera

Any sighting after server reboot: Don't know

Any SightingBeforeserver shutdown: Don't know

Best guess as to time of day you sighted any babies: Morning

Lair resets: No?

Have you ever been KS'd while sighting a baby: Nope
Vinaddar
Sun May 09, 2004 5:37 pm
#22


The rarity is far worse than 99% chance against a baby spawning--of the critters we are all searching for on our rare list. And while it is true that the percentage of the spawn rate will not fluctuate, the probability increases with each adult you encounter. The spawn rate on these baby creatures is between zero and something horrid like 0.0001% chance to spawn a baby. If the rate was better, we would have had multiples on each server already. I have personally killed over 1000 adults of the Screechers, FG's, Bulls, Reapers, BMB's, BMBQ's, and most of all, those damned Merek Harvesters.


Tal-N is right, many of these creatures are extinct in the game now or so rare as to be no better than extinct--and that is unacceptable.


Vinaddar


Message Edited by Vinaddar on 05-09-2004 05:37 PM

ZonJaiNezBA
Sun May 09, 2004 7:11 pm
#23






Vertexon wrote:
Yes, good points there. Most players do not read these forums. And among those who do... most non-CHs probably don't read the CH forum. When a baby bull rancor does spawn, the odds of any witnesses both recognizing its rarity and coming here totalk aboutit seem exceptionally low.







Of those players who don't read the forums, how many do you think are searching for the Bull Rancor baby? How many know that they are of the extremely rare variety?


I have rarely seen another MCH on Dath. I know we all don't have our Master tags up all the time if at all, but all the solo groups I see out there are getting Enraged Rancor missions for the easy money and the easy resources. I can pull the Bull lairs when only grouped with my pets, but when my hunting partner is on, we join a solo group and he gets Enraged lairs, while I stick to the Bull lairs. When someone harvests a corpse it is 90% of the time an Enraged Rancor that is harvested (via the system message of group harvests) Otherwise it is a corpse of some agro creature that jumped them.


Also, Vertexon, nice job on the X-Wing in the PA hall.




BH Informant List. Condensed from a previous thread I made a few months back
Bl3jd
Tue May 11, 2004 12:21 am
#24

Name of rare hunted for: Prowling Gurreck
Number of Lairs Search: 3 (static spawns)
Number of Babies Spawned: 1
Closest guess of total Parental types killed: 14
Number of Babies Tamed: 1
Whether the Mission can be found on Terminals: No
Server of CH character: Chimaira
Any sighting after server reboot: Don't know
Any Sighting Before server shutdown: Don't know
Best guess as to time of day you sighted any babies: Around 4 PM GMT
Lair resets: ?
Have you ever been KS'd while sighting a baby: No
LarkeEno
Tue May 11, 2004 12:57 am
#25

Name of rare hunted for: Rhoa Kwi Pack Leader

Number of Lairs Search: 17

Number of Babies Spawned: 0

Closest guess of total Parental types killed: 35

Number of Babies Tamed: 0

Whether the Mission can be found on Terminals: no

Server of CH character: Starsider

Any sighting after server reboot: no

Any SightingBeforeserver shutdown: no

Best guess as to time of day you sighted any babies: NA

Lair resets: 0


This acursed thing is giving me a headache. I'll getcha ya little bugger!!!




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JCooper2
Tue May 11, 2004 10:04 am
#26


Name of rare hunted for: Prowling Gurreck

Number of Lairs Search: 7 (Static Spawns)

Number of Babies Spawned: 4

Closest guess of total Parental types killed: 32

Number of Babies Tamed: 3

Whether the Mission can be found on Terminals: No

Server of CH character: Scylla

Any sighting after server reboot: N/A

Any SightingBeforeserver shutdown: N/A

Best guess as to time of day you sighted any babies: 7pm-ish EST

Lair resets: N/A

Have you ever been KS'd while sighting a baby: No



Name of rare hunted for: Great Plains Stalker

Number of Lairs Search: 9 (Static Spawns)

Number of Babies Spawned: 1

Closest guess of total Parental types killed: 36

Number of Babies Tamed: 0, nada, nill, zilch

Whether the Mission can be found on Terminals: No

Server of CH character: Scylla

Any sighting after server reboot: N/A

Any SightingBeforeserver shutdown: N/A

Best guess as to time of day you sighted any babies: 7pm-ish EST

Lair resets: N/A

Have you ever been KS'd while sighting a baby: No



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