Creature Handler Archive
Thread: Creatures that need a change in skills and also be taken out of taming availability.
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StikerRunningfly
Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:22 am
#14
ChelseaRorec wrote:
i have been playing SWG since june and have noticed something about the CH community and large creatures like the kimo and rancor .. They seem to turn CH's into complete idiots !.
How many times have you seen MCH's with rancors and kimo's in town causeing all kinds of lag ?..how often have you seen a CH with a little pet out and a MCH has to get out a bigger pet just to show off ?.
IMO creatures like those just swell peoples heads and personal i have no intrest in having one of those pets in my datapad what so ever.
All you hear on those board is " rancor rancor gotta have a rancor !" .. WHY ? .. I'm more intrested in rarer pets and unusual pets not what every man and his dog has and lets face it every CH has one !.
It will be no great loss to me if those creature's were taken out.
Pets cause lag? Am I getting this right? No no no, it's a lack of RAM in your system causing lag. Don't cry for a CH nerf just because you have less than the recommended memory in your system. And did you ever consider that the people you are referring to were idiots before they had rancors in their datapads?
hulleman
Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:46 am
#15
First of all I did not say it was needed to take out all of those pets from our list or BE creatoin lists. I was asking about what you think and my impression is that a Kimogila is not ever likely to be tamed. That is why I want that pet taken out from us. However I also would like for our pets/animals to be good. A rancor in this game stands for 4 seconds and a whole rancor lair lasts a minute agianst a master profession. Is this even remotely fun. I would like for them to make rancors and other large pets really really bad for anyone trying to kill it. If they did this and we are allowed to control them it would not be fair to those that are not Creature Handlers.
I can understand people wanting to play this game and controlling the rancor and having all rare pets. I am a Creature Handler myself and have been for a very long time now and actually take offense when you say I am a disgrace. Not sure if you just jest with me. I do take my CH profession seriously and am a bit angered by how we seem to have had a revamp in combat that affect only us and all other professions is at an advantage now (combat). With this in mind I think that some creatures should be a lot better than they are giving them lethal attacks but this would need a lot of thinking I guess ...
Also on a side note for those that have rancors and do want to keep them ... I have rancors myself yes but today I never use them unless I am in the wild. What rancor is seen in the movies and oh yes it is in a cage and it eats anything close to it. Probably only one character that will be safe if left with it and he cannot control it to not eat others. I think there is just reason to not have specific extremely wild creatures going off everywhere in our city limits and so on.
Maybe a way to control us from having pets in certain areas would be a lot better ... ?
Sior.
CowardlyChicken
Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:18 am
#16
It is your choice that you use them in the wild. There is no reason to not allow creatures such as rancors in citys they dont harm anyone. And they dont cause lag either....
Why do you think people become ch's?So we can showoff our pets? And thats all that you can do with pets?And just because you see a starved rancor in the movie makes you think that a rancor cant be tamed or controlled? Just take alook at KOTOR at the end of the game you'll see npcs with tame rancors walking around. And they arent even force sensitive.
Darkcrest
Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:49 am
#17
hmm nerf us more so our rancors could be defeated by what a gnort?
if lag is an issue get out of cornet or get a better computer. because we need our pets of old back no more nerfs thank you very much
hulleman
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:13 am
#18
Well cowardlychicken may I ask you a question.
This is after alla RPG and as beeing one do you feel it is right to have your rancor walking the streets you should be allowed to try but in doing so do you also think that it would be something you could do all the time and allover? ... Go to Coronet and ask any official person of all the complaints he has had of pets roaming his city and also destroying the city structures and .... so on. Do you get my picture.....
I am not asking you all that we give up our pets or only have nunas as pets ... I am not happy with the way people play CH that is all. Furthermore we need a lot of change to be competetive and I would think any large pet in the world would bite off our heads and stomp us into the ground with ease. So for any large pet to be as lame as they are now is no good. Do you think this is correct?
If so what do you suggest they do?
Sior.
hulleman
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:19 am
#19
Darkcrest where did I say that we should nerf the rancor. If anything I want it to become a feared creature that we do not go close to .... if not in a large group where we think that we can stand a chance. As it is now people solo them and are not even bothered by them when killing a host of rancors. The only thing stopping them are spawn rates.
I also want to add that why I do not want pets to be in a city is not due to lag. First of all this may or may not be an issue with lag. The main reason for not having pets walk into buildings and have rancors running around starports or even a kimo blocking line of sight is that who will ever have a setting for roleplay there.
Well. That is maybe just me and I may be bad at explaining what I want with my postings here.
Sior.
Smezza
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:25 am
#20
hulleman wrote:
Well cowardlychicken may I ask you a question.
This is after alla RPG and as beeing one do you feel it is right to have your rancor walking the streets you should be allowed to try but in doing so do you also think that it would be something you could do all the time and allover? ... Go to Coronet and ask any official person of all the complaints he has had of pets roaming his city and also destroying the city structures and .... so on. Do you get my picture.....
I am not asking you all that we give up our pets or only have nunas as pets ... I am not happy with the way people play CH that is all. Furthermore we need a lot of change to be competetive and I would think any large pet in the world would bite off our heads and stomp us into the ground with ease. So for any large pet to be as lame as they are now is no good. Do you think this is correct?
If so what do you suggest they do?
Sior.
Well lets put it this way... in the manual it says that cloning is illegal and so are a lot of weapons but then you still see people cloning and running round with those weapons.... at the end of the day, are you the officer to tell that person that he not aloud a Rancor in the city? see my point
As for you wanting creature to be stronger thats not going to happen they where nerf because they where to strong in the first place
hulleman
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:39 am
#21
Yes but that is an issue we have posts on too. Weapons should not be equipped in city limits at least not all cities. There are exceptions and that goes for the pets too. I want a nice playing area and not just a screen filled with people in circles sitting getting buffed by a doc when there is a medical facility close by. They should have to use that. I do not want to see people armed at all times. I do not want to see Jedi anytime. I do not want to see pets allover the place. I can go on with this list since there are many things that need fixing for any kind of feeling getting in the game again.
Yes I know the creatures were nerfed before but there also is a reason. We had too good pets. My point is just that. We control pets that should be very hard to beat off. The same with an AT-ST it will kill most anything that stand in its way. Still they have changed that too for us to control and rebels whine that they get killed. I find there is absolutely more sense taking them away from our control and making them really strong and only allow npc controlled AT-ST.s and perhaps this should be the same with the kimogilas and other large pets that they are not for Creature Handlers but they are really tough to figth.
Another thing that bothers me in this is that a BE can make a very low level pet and put it in a skin of a rancor. To further add to the humiliation of animals and pets beeing stupid. Also we can have the cutest looking pets have fearsome stats. ?!? Should this really be so?
Sior.
Smezza
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:54 am
#22
hulleman wrote:
Yes but that is an issue we have posts on too. Weapons should not be equipped in city limits at least not all cities. There are exceptions and that goes for the pets too. I want a nice playing area and not just a screen filled with people in circles sitting getting buffed by a doc when there is a medical facility close by. They should have to use that. I do not want to see people armed at all times. I do not want to see Jedi anytime. I do not want to see pets allover the place. I can go on with this list since there are many things that need fixing for any kind of feeling getting in the game again.
Yes I know the creatures were nerfed before but there also is a reason. We had too good pets. My point is just that. We control pets that should be very hard to beat off. The same with an AT-ST it will kill most anything that stand in its way. Still they have changed that too for us to control and rebels whine that they get killed. I find there is absolutely more sense taking them away from our control and making them really strong and only allow npc controlled AT-ST.s and perhaps this should be the same with the kimogilas and other large pets that they are not for Creature Handlers but they are really tough to figth.
Another thing that bothers me in this is that a BE can make a very low level pet and put it in a skin of a rancor. To further add to the humiliation of animals and pets beeing stupid. Also we can have the cutest looking pets have fearsome stats. ?!? Should this really be so?
Sior.
Well, yes, that the whole point of being a BE so you can my kick ass pets then put them in silly skin (well not the whole point but you see want I mean).
As for not allowing certain things to happen in cities well that just crap there are all sort of spawns in cities and you think we should be aloud our pets or weapons.... sory dude but I feel you haven't thought about this
deatryx
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:55 am
#23
Unfortunately, you will never be able to get a pure role-playing experience from a public online game of this magnitude. There are too many people that Sony has to try and please for it to work. You may want to not see pets in towns, but other may want them, so ifSony abides by your desires, they game is not as fun for others. Same thing for allowing weapons in town, etc. The best that Sony could probably do is have a server set aside and label it as "pole-playing" and strongly encourage all on that server to role-play.
Sslyth
Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:28 am
#24
hulleman wrote:
I am not happy with the way people play CH that is all.
Oh dear! I'll amend my ways at once! 
hulleman you sound like another one of those role players that wants to drain all the fun out of this game for everyone else just because it doesn't fit in with the way you play.
Good role players don't need the game to be changed to suit them. They adapt and use their imaginations. They don't tryto impose their play style on everyone else.
Message Edited by Sslyth on 01-18-2005 04:02 AM
Rawanuk
Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:20 am
#25
Rawanuk holds his finger over the "CREATURE GRAPHICAL LAG EXPLANATION MACRO" while glaring menacingly at those who think large pets graphically cause lag.
Bleah.
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