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Thread: The new Jedi problem... who said it was a bad thing?

Aladine
Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:27 am
#14




jonnyknowsbest wrote:
I gotta try this.


Where are the geo caves??





The Geo Caves are on Yavin 4 at -6450,-360 The closest starport is the Labor Outpost.


one hint when ya go there, fly towards it a bit, then when you see water on your left, fly out onto the water, and you dont' have to dodge trees, and you will get less aggro.


Also, check out this Websitefor some hints on how to get through.


Message Edited by Aladine on 07-15-2004 12:30 PM



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Oesai
Thu Jul 15, 2004 1:45 pm
#15

"....when it should take them longer."

"....want to do it the right way if they plan on keeping it."


Those are two very subjective statements.....and you are obviouslywelcome to form you own opinion.


I see myself as being a very pragmatic and efficient gamer. I played EQ for 4.5 years. I spent most of that time in an end-game guild feeding on the buggy content that SOE provided us. We all learned very quickly that we had to use our heads in order to find solutions to the problems put before us. I have taken those lessons here to SWG as well. I saw it to be far more intelligent and efficient to attempt to master up CH as quickly as possible, for a few reasons. 1) I don't deny xp to any of the groups I would be in under normal circumstances (longer grinding = longer time a pet is attacking mobs = more denied xp because of increased pet dmg over that period of time). The jedi in the geo caves kill the mobs so quickly that 50% of the time my baby pet would never get a hit in, and the other 50% would be 1-2 hits of 100-150 each. Condiering the HAM on a crazed geo's, enchanced kwi's, etc, that isn't much of an xp hit for the grinding jedi. They get their XP I get mine. 2) I am also mastering rifleman as well. I didn't want my pets taking away any of my potential rifle xp. In fact even now that I am a MCH w/ some fairly decent pets I don't use them unless I am in trouble, because I am attempting to maximize my rifle xp as quickly as possible. 3) I learn very quickly. I see no reason to wastes months of my timedoing the same thing over and over again whenI learned the lesson the first time around.4)Thevast bulkof information that is integralto being aCH revolves around pets and their abilities. You learn this most efficiently at the MCH level because you are not limiting yourselfin terms of what pet you can and cannot tame. If it is tameable than it's yours (provided you have some + taming clothes as well hehe).


That being said, Makon,I am sorry if my approach offends you, but I hardly see it as an exploit. Itwas just the most practical way to approach CH for me.



Oesai Ravenshade
Master CH
3/3/3/2 Rifleman
4/3/4/0 Medic

Kazan'hi
Baby Marksman/Brawler
Makon
Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:45 pm
#16

I see your point, butI enjoyed spending a decent amount of time leveling up Creature Handler. I'm somewhat of a roleplayer so maybe that has something to do with it. I guess all people don't enjoy the leveling up part.



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yorukaze
Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:22 pm
#17

I suppose some people enjoy it and call it "leveling." Others, who hate it, call it "grinding," when you keep doing the same thing over and over to get it over faster.



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Ebisu
Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:56 pm
#18

Well im enjoying every second of my mastery now. For months ive attempted CH exp alongside rifles, and i reached 1.2.1.1


Then i found them geo caves. Everyone was and is complaining about the jedi there camping.


I took good use of them!



Ebisu Osro
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Makon
Fri Jul 16, 2004 12:52 am
#19

I'm flaming about people "mastering" their profession in a couple days with minimal effort when it should take much longer. It's their choice how they do it but I figured people would want to do it the right way if they plan on keeping it. This practically sounds like an exploit, oh well.



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See you, Space Cowboy ....
Matsubaa
Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:23 am
#20






Makon wrote:

I'm flaming about people "mastering" their profession in a couple days with minimal effort when it should take much longer. It's their choice how they do it but I figured people would want to do it the right way if they plan on keeping it. This practically sounds like an exploit, oh well.







This *is* an exploit, the same as the old Jax or Baz Nitch missions were exploits except this time it's XP, not money.


It will rob them of the experience of being a Creature Handler, such as it is, but it will get them plenty of experience points. It *is* possible to learn to be a Creature Handler after you've got master but it's just not the "traditional" way of doing it.


Any exploit involving Jedi has apparently gained the Dev's blessings anyway. Go join the gankfest that is "SWG: A Development Team Divided" and try to enjoy it while it lasts.




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Oshadagea
Fri Jul 16, 2004 2:00 am
#21

LOL, that beats the old days of using two babies on Dathomir for sure, even 9 months ago when I became a MCH. Thanks for sharing the information with your CH compadres!



Osha Arr'yka (OpFor)
Master Creature Handler, Master Rifleman
Opposing Force - Chilastra
Ebisu
Fri Jul 16, 2004 2:42 am
#22






Oshadagea wrote:

LOL, that beats the old days of using two babies on Dathomir for sure, even 9 months ago when I became a MCH. Thanks for sharing the information with your CH compadres!






To be honest, im actually enjoying it more being a master now, than attempting to get exp traditionally. I was frustrated with the amount of time it took, frustration of seeing my pets dieing all the time from the exp grind.


Now im master, im very satisfied that ive made light of the recent jedi upsurge, and im very, very satisfied that im a Master CH. I dont care how unbalenced they are in the game, how weak. There is something special about being a CH, naming and taming and training your pets, watching them grow into impressive specticals (the amount of times people get impressed with my gigantic kimogila in spaceports is great) and being able to use them in combat. Im satisfied with that in itself. It feels like if finally gotten by the chore of grinding to mastery, and now the real fun begins. Rare creature hunting etc


Cant wait to get back home tonight from work and play as my master CH!



Ebisu Osro
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Theed Cantina Whore
Proud Member of EEVIL
Makon
Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:14 am
#23

[quote]I suppose some people enjoy it and call it "leveling." Others, who hate it, call it "grinding," when you keep doing the same thing over and over to get it over faster.[/quote]


Depends on how you look at it I guess. If you view something as a chore, it won't be fun. I used to be a hologrinder; I quit the game for a couple months because I got so burnt out on grinding. "Grinding" really is a horrible word for leveling up, it makes it all the worse when you don't want to keep the profession you are doing. I want to keep Master Creature Handler as long as possible, though, so I didn't mind trying to get experience.I didn't rush it, but I never passed up an untamed baby in the wild and always used my pets in missions. I enjoyed looking at the new, stronger pets I could control as I gained more and more skills. To me, mastering Creature Handler in an instant would cut out a large part of the Creature Handler experience, but if you view it as a chore then by all means get it over with.





Uraun - Wookiee Berserker - Shadowfire
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yorukaze
Fri Jul 16, 2004 6:07 am
#24






Matsubaa wrote:





Makon wrote:

I'm flaming about people "mastering" their profession in a couple days with minimal effort when it should take much longer. It's their choice how they do it but I figured people would want to do it the right way if they plan on keeping it. This practically sounds like an exploit, oh well.







This *is* an exploit, the same as the old Jax or Baz Nitch missions were exploits except this time it's XP, not money.


It will rob them of the experience of being a Creature Handler, such as it is, but it will get them plenty of experience points. It *is* possible to learn to be a Creature Handler after you've got master but it's just not the "traditional" way of doing it.


Any exploit involving Jedi has apparently gained the Dev's blessings anyway. Go join the gankfest that is "SWG: A Development Team Divided" and try to enjoy it while it lasts.







They're desperate to keep Jedi in the game, you see.



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Wallach1
Fri Jul 16, 2004 7:53 am
#25

My 2c worth....


Do what you want, if you want to "grind" it and get there quick, go for it.


Me, I've always have been upon the belief that the fun is in the travel, not getting there the quickest. but that's my opinion, and not a rule. Gratz on mastering.



Walle Deabi - Shortest Master Creature Handler on Shadowfire

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