Creature Handler Archive
Thread: Open letter to tiggs.
Message Edited by taloncard on 09-11-2004 12:29 PM
Tiggs
Congratulations on your new position.
I would like to invite you to the CH boards.
I am sure that TH and other have told you not to post in our particular professional board for fear of getting flamed more than California during wildfire season. While it is true we have had particular problems with certain devs insulting us or showing a total lack of knowledge of our profession in explaining bugs to us, I believe most would be willing to start fresh with you.
The greater percentage of us just want some acknowledgement of our bugs and issues and some reassurance from a developer that they are being addressed. Our issues have remained essentially unchanged since December of 03 known to us as the great nerf. Because of this all that is really necessary to get an understanding of them is reading the first 5 or so pages of our profession. Vertexon Our correspendant is also well versed in all our issues and can easily bring you up to speed.
I believe the main issues of the whole SWG community is a lack of communication between the devs and the community. We for the most part see communication as a chain from us to the correspondents to you to the Developers. Unfortunately the communication should then flow back and we rarely see that happen.
We ask that you please reverse this communication trend and make it more open, we are not asking for immediate fixes just acknowledgements of issues and problems.
So please come on down, post a hello and a message that you are reviewing our boards and issues. Not all of us will bite, but then again our pets might
Message Edited by taloncard on 09-11-2004 12:43 PM
taloncard wrote:
Rassenfrassen sonofabitch boards keep posting blank messages, /sigh retypeing in word then I will cut and paste
/comfort
I had the same issue a couple of days ago. I'd spent a good hour writing and perfecting the pinnacle of posts and when I clicked "Submit Post" I got the "you aren't logged in" message and lost the post (going "back" didn't bring my text back).
I committed at that point to do every post in another editor so I would never lose it again. The next day of course I'd forgotten about it and lost another post because the forums suddenly were "undergoing maintenence". ARGH! You'd think I'd learn! /bonk self
I know basic HTML and web technology but I don't claim to know the underpinnings of how this forum system works. It would be nice though if it were better at error handling so posts aren't lost. It's one thing if your browser crashes or something like that, but it seems to be "cruel and unusual punishment" to allow you to type up a post then it gets eaten while you press "submit".
Tstorm wrote:
/comfort
I had the same issue a couple of days ago. I'd spent a good hour writing and perfecting the pinnacle of posts and when I clicked "Submit Post" I got the "you aren't logged in" message and lost the post (going "back" didn't bring my text back).
I committed at that point to do every post in another editor so I would never lose it again. The next day of course I'd forgotten about it and lost another post because the forums suddenly were "undergoing maintenence". ARGH! You'd think I'd learn! /bonk self
It used to kill me to have that happen. You don't know how many of my posts from previous monthswere actually retyped second drafts. ![]()
I've trained myself to Select All and Copy my completed message out of the Lithium editor before hitting Submit. That way it's in the clipboard and I don't have to worry about reformatting it from a Word document when something goes horribly wrong.
Vertexon wrote:
Tstorm wrote:
/comfort
I had the same issue a couple of days ago. I'd spent a good hour writing and perfecting the pinnacle of posts and when I clicked "Submit Post" I got the "you aren't logged in" message and lost the post (going "back" didn't bring my text back).
I committed at that point to do every post in another editor so I would never lose it again. The next day of course I'd forgotten about it and lost another post because the forums suddenly were "undergoing maintenence". ARGH! You'd think I'd learn! /bonk selfIt used to kill me to have that happen. You don't know how many of my posts from previous months were actually retyped second drafts.
I've trained myself to Select All and Copy my completed message out of the Lithium editor before hitting Submit. That way it's in the clipboard and I don't have to worry about reformatting it from a Word document when something goes horribly wrong.
I do th same thing though since I am using a none supported browser on this forum (Netscape) FrieFox sometimes the browser crashes and brings my computer down with it. So I take an extra step and save it to notepad LOL
she PM'ed me keep in mind this is a copy of the PM I sent to her.
Her message:
Hello,
Don't worry, I will be visiting all of the boards to gather your feedback and listen to what is going on
It isn't much but it is communication, which is exactly what we/I asked for.
She gets props just for replying in my book.
Wallach1 wrote:
Aakhperkare wrote:
My respect for any of these jokers is up in the air until we start seeing some combat revamp progress...
Now now Aak, I'm no need for negativity, I mean....look at everything good they've done for us..... I mean there was......um....Well, there's.......hmmmmmmm....How about....er...uh.....Fine, my respect is up in the air too till we start seeing some combat revamp progress......
(hehehehehehehe) Seriously, can't wait for Tiggs to respond. just wonder how long before she does.
i predict we'll be dead last.
get down to B, and then randomly decide to switch to the other end of the alphabet and work back over.
SkyPreacher1 wrote:I think that one thing that we need to understand is that Devs are held on a fairly short leash, not just by SOE but I would not be surprised if LucasArts has their hand on the leash as well. So I am sure that any post has got to be pretty carefully worded in order to get it from their computer to this board. That's just my thought. I mean you wouldn't want some dev spilling the beans on how good or bad or easy or hard certain things in the game are.
That's a great point. I've seen a few posts by Thunderheart and others that have given me the impression that not all the Devs have permission to post on the public forums. Be it for spin purposes or whatever, it seems clear to me that SOE/LucasArts wants to make sure the tone and message communicated is appropriate.
Unfortunately, I think this layer of bureaucracy is part of the communication problem we've been seeing. Thunderheart has ended up being a bottleneck.
Hopefully with Tiggs entering the scene and just general progress, we'll see some positive improvements with communication over time.