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Thread: well fine then!
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Meuw
Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:02 pm
#1
Well since they obviously wish us to be a combat "support" profession I think I may go all the way. Here is my new possible template:
Master Creature handler
Master Squad Leader
Ranger 0030
If all I am supposed to do is hide and hope my pets don't die then I might as well take Sl and use commands that won't get myself killed. At least this way I will be useful. Especially snce no more uber buffs and no more soloing. Think about it, let's all start a CH/SL/Ranger guild lol.
Message Edited by Meuw on 04-18-2005 10:23 PM
Ekaw
Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:37 am
#3
MiniDato wrote:
It's ironic, I sense you post that with some sarcasm and bitterness, which I can understand the way things are shaping up right now on TC. But spare some food for thought for those CH's that DO only use pets as a matter of choice likea goodly number of MCH / Master Rangers I know (including me). I have ZERO weapon skills over and above whats given at MCH or M Ranger and the rest of what points I have left are in Medic (Organic Chemistry) and B E (Tissues I - III).
I have fought for over a year using pets and traps alone and I have managed just peachy thank you very much. Sure, I am worried about what the CU is going to do to my gaming just as much as you are and with good reason. I just hope that when it all comes down to it and this goes live, you CHOOSE to be a CH/SL/Ranger not because you are taking the pi$$, but because it might actually be viable and fun.
That wasn't a dig by the way, I just thought it was interesting you chose that combination to emphasise your point (which was quite correct BTW unfortunately and has me very concerned... especially the hate systemvs traps or stims)
Stay peachy - Iena: Ahazi MCH / Master Ranger
edit: "I have fought small and medium level creatures for over a year using pets and traps alone".
Manyof us have been creature handlers longer than that and use it differently, respect that as well. Some of us have taken the time to learn the intricacies of the profession as well andchoose to fight higher lefvel mobs:
I myself have worked around teh inadaquecies of CH and mastered the profession for real, I believe. Not just the master box, but mastered by using what I have to the best of my abilities.
He is right about support, you flamed it, and then you said he was right. What is your point? For many of us, our pets have always been support and never primary damage dealers.
Message Edited by Ekaw on 04-18-2005 12:53 PM
Otarr
Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:02 am
#4
Meuw and my fellow creature handlers,
That is an interesting idea I too have been struggling with the issue, if my pets are tanks I need to do less damage or I'll be the tank and damage dealer. What will my pets do? I have thought about dabbling in SL with the trees that might benefit the creatures but have been unable to confirm much of this. I have also seen a few guns certs for just squad leader but have not checked them out yet but I will now
Another Idea I had was to pick up Combat med. I have done a little testing on TC and found that I was not out damaging the pet in a way that made me the target, lol. I have new hope that I can find something that works and I do not have to tear out my heart and lose my pets because it no longer works.
That is an interesting idea I too have been struggling with the issue, if my pets are tanks I need to do less damage or I'll be the tank and damage dealer. What will my pets do? I have thought about dabbling in SL with the trees that might benefit the creatures but have been unable to confirm much of this. I have also seen a few guns certs for just squad leader but have not checked them out yet but I will now
Another Idea I had was to pick up Combat med. I have done a little testing on TC and found that I was not out damaging the pet in a way that made me the target, lol. I have new hope that I can find something that works and I do not have to tear out my heart and lose my pets because it no longer works.
MiniDato
Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:08 pm
#6
It's ironic, I sense you post that with some sarcasm and bitterness, which I can understand the way things are shaping up right now on TC. But spare some food for thought for those CH's that DO only use pets as a matter of choice likea goodly number of MCH / Master Rangers I know (including me). I have ZERO weapon skills over and above whats given at MCH or M Ranger and the rest of what points I have left are in Medic (Organic Chemistry) and B E (Tissues I - III).
I have fought for over a year using pets and traps alone and I have managed just peachy thank you very much. Sure, I am worried about what the CU is going to do to my gaming just as much as you are and with good reason. I just hope that when it all comes down to it and this goes live, you CHOOSE to be a CH/SL/Ranger not because you are taking the pi$$, but because it might actually be viable and fun.
That wasn't a dig by the way, I just thought it was interesting you chose that combination to emphasise your point (which was quite correct BTW unfortunately and has me very concerned... especially the hate systemvs traps or stims)
Stay peachy - Iena: Ahazi MCH / Master Ranger
Meuw
Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:59 pm
#7
No I am serious, and really dude, we are all CH's here, don't spin us yarns about how you hunt with your pets. We all have them and know that doesnt happen. Unless you are the worlds greatest chuba hunter there is no way you are hunting with just your pets. somewhere there are guns, hammers, or explosions involved.
And while it is somewhat sarcasm it doesn't take away from what I am saying. I am saying since CH is no longer viable as a cimpliment to my swordsman because of idiotic aggression rules and lack of survivability I might as well go all the way. The biggest point I was going to make but never got around to is that after CU this game will just be CoH. We will all where the same dorky outfits(ch's and swordsman only get battle armor which repecs into ONLY bone or padded armor) And everyone is going to be forced to play ONLY their role. People will all stand around for an hour trying to build a team like they do in CoH. I was a mentalist controller there so why not be one here. Unless they do some major changes we will not be tanks, nor have even the ability to do damage worth a hoot. We are as they described going to be "versitile". roughly this means we are equally worthless in all areas. Still alot is left to be seen anyhow with pets, since they are right now actually invinvible on TC. But from the conversion rates of pets that need to be respec'd it looks to be they will be tanks only in the fact that they can take hideous amounts of damage, which won't matter since NOTHING agros them.
Either way I am seriously contemplating it. As it is combat in the CU is so boring and cartoonish thatI would rather just do the last creative thing they have left which is SL. ALmost no one ever uses it and it will be far more viable after the CU. Grouping will now be almost required. With the lowered buffing abilites and armor nerfing the skills of the SL in crowd control will become far more useful. Couple that with a master CH's ability to control pets(which in theory will now be much stronger in battle, if they were actually ABLE to tank) and with the rangers ability to track for hunting parties and you will make a very useful player. Anyone can find 5 people with a rifle or sword, how many can say they can find someone with the abilities of this template. It's drawback to most is that it will be boring. And that is why I am bitter a bit.
But I still wuvs U.
Meuw
Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:43 pm
#8
Otarr wrote:
Meuw and my fellow creature handlers,
That is an interesting idea I too have been struggling with the issue, if my pets are tanks I need to do less damage or I'll be the tank and damage dealer. What will my pets do? I have thought about dabbling in SL with the trees that might benefit the creatures but have been unable to confirm much of this. I have also seen a few guns certs for just squad leader but have not checked them out yet but I will now
Another Idea I had was to pick up Combat med. I have done a little testing on TC and found that I was not out damaging the pet in a way that made me the target, lol. I have new hope that I can find something that works and I do not have to tear out my heart and lose my pets because it no longer works.
There are some posts about this on the SL forums I think. It is alot like our specials, only a coupl of them work for pets and even then it is not much help.
If you want I will run through the professions you want to look at and tell you what CL they will come out at. In a group the CL wont matter unless you are the highest, but it also determines your hit points(I no longer call it health, they want to make it dungeons and dragons then why go halfway) and the armor you can wear.
ZallusNuranxis
Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:39 pm
#9
Meuw wrote:Profanity filter is not there for you to bypass.
Well since they obviously wish us to be a combat "support" profession I think I may go all the way. Here is my new possible template:
Master Creature handler
Master Squad Leader
Ranger 0030
If all I am supposed to do is hide and hope my pets don't die then I might as well take Sl and use commands that won't get my a$$ killed. At least this way I will be useful. Especially snce no more uber buffs and no more soloing. Think about it, let's all start a CH/SL/Ranger guild lol.
Message Edited by GarVa on 04-19-2005 08:04 AM
ZallusNuranxis
Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:42 pm
#10
Otarr wrote:The SL certs could still outdamage your pets. I do about 200 damage per second with those SL weapons on TC but I have yet to get a big level pet to test
Meuw and my fellow creature handlers,
That is an interesting idea I too have been struggling with the issue, if my pets are tanks I need to do less damage or I'll be the tank and damage dealer. What will my pets do? I have thought about dabbling in SL with the trees that might benefit the creatures but have been unable to confirm much of this. I have also seen a few guns certs for just squad leader but have not checked them out yet but I will now
Another Idea I had was to pick up Combat med. I have done a little testing on TC and found that I was not out damaging the pet in a way that made me the target, lol. I have new hope that I can find something that works and I do not have to tear out my heart and lose my pets because it no longer works.
Meuw
Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:23 pm
#11
Zallus, didn't Freud say that "if you think someone is insulting you you must have insecurity about the issue." ?
I am serious, try reading ALL the posts before flying off the handle. You do not know me or you would know I don't fit your colorful description. Maybe ask me to clasrify and I will.
jopenack
Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:09 am
#12
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