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Thread: good idea bad idea?
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Dodece
Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:34 pm
#1
I suppose the question is if the devs allowed non chs to have say level 13 pets. Would this be good or bad. I think it would be good in that chs would get a profit sell again. Since level ten pets are really treats for anything but a lowly kreetle. The only added price being that only chs could use the vitality packs so we would be needed to recharge or replace them.
Second question since vehicles came in mounts lost almost all value. Do you think letting ranged fighters use specials from mounted position would help? Yes or no, and do you have any idea to make mounts valuable again?
DrSoloMan
Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:14 pm
#2
I'd like to see mounted combat come into play as well, perhaps with benefits or disadvantages depending on your combat class. Mounted combat has been around for thousands of years. Ah well....
Propagandalf
Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:34 pm
#3
That or there needs to be a + Mount Speed skill mod based on CH skill. At master level, mounts should be as fast as speederbikes or AV-21's.
Joker9125
Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:51 am
#4
Propagandalf wrote:
That or there needs to be a + Mount Speed skill mod based on CH skill. At master level, mounts should be as fast as speederbikes or AV-21's.
I like it
Dodece
Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:48 am
#5
Gee I thought there would be a bit more thinking stuff going on in this thread. Either pro or negative higher level non ch pets again.
homelessguy
Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:50 am
#6
it would be a good idea to make the non ch lvl to 13 since we could sell cu pa's againsince i am a ch and a be and i have had quite a few people wanting a cu pa. as for mounts makeing them faster would be good since it wouldnt have to pay for fixing the damn speeders anymore. as for the useing specials on a pet that would be fun since if only you could do it on pets not speeders, it would look cool and it would help alot in running and shooting for low combat skills like me...
Dodece
Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:38 pm
#7
My thoughts exactly. It would be so much fun to be able to sell or give away non ch pets it would be great. I agree in the past level 15 pets were a bit too good for someone with no ch skills, but the pets have no armor now, and a 2000 ham pet is still nothing in pvp. So why not raise the level with the revamp. If you balance it out it should work.
These pets would need a ch to revitalize makeing people not use them in pvp. Which used to be a big gripe anyway. Though they would be okay for a nonch haveing a little trouble in pve.
Joker9125
Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:06 pm
#8
How about a +gallop duration and/or a reduction in time for gallop based on CH lvl? It would make sense that a CH would be better at pacing his mount than someone else.
Vertexon
Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:03 pm
#9
My feelings on this are that useful non-CH combat pets would dilute the value of the CH profession and increase combat pet visibility to uncomfortable levels.
If everyone goes into battle with a rock beetle or cowardly gurreck, you're basically giving people extra combat ability "for free" (i.e. without skill point cost). No one is going to turn down free combat strength, so almost everyone would avail themselves of these pets. And while I would very much like to see more opportunities for selling pets to non-CHs, I'm not sure if we would want to have people start screaming "pet wars" again. It would probably bemore comfortableif the only creature pets on the battlefield are controlled by pet specialists.
Dodece
Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:19 pm
#10
Finally someone actually pointed out a negative. Unfortunately dont people already have this choice in the game anyway. We got faction pets we got people with atsts. People can still sick a carion spat on you. People got droids. Bh and smugglers got bomb droids. So I have to ask where is the real difference in all this. The only one being that creatures now are the weakest pets. Its not even like creature pets wouldnt be the cheapest of the lot either.
People can still use their mounts in combat as is. People are not useing them because its a complete waste. I have sent level fourty pets at people and seen them go down in two shots. So would a level 12 or 13 pet be a real hardship on the game. I for one seriously doubt that if a person wouldnt send in their level ten kaddu that they will send in a level 12 rock beatle.
slave138
Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:55 pm
#11
I actually think non-CH pets should go back to 15. 15's still suck pretty bad, but can be slightly useful in a pinch and it would give us an extra 5 levels at master so we can use a level 45 creature and still have enough left to bring out one more semi-decent creature.
From my perspective tho, this kind of discussion is a wasted effort until we have a better idea of what they are doing in the upgrade. If creatures get back some of their purpose, maybe it won't be so hard to make a living as a CH.
taloncard
Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:54 am
#12
I would agree with this if It wasn't for the BE Uber pets with 10K ham that are level 10.
imangine what they could do with an extra 3 CL?
Oh yeah the NonCH level used to be 15 pre nerf
imangine what they could do with an extra 3 CL?
Oh yeah the NonCH level used to be 15 pre nerf
Message Edited by taloncard on 11-02-2004 09:55 AM
Dodece
Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:28 pm
#13
I think everyone and his brother is still intimidated by the word pokemon. I aint even suggesting that cowardly gurreks make a comeback. A level 12 or 13 pet is still pretty weak, but as it stands now level tens are insta die pets. I think those bug be pets need to be listed as exploit weapons now. The people got their fun from them. I even made the point that these pets would need a ch to fix the vitality on them. So anyone useing them in pvp would be ludicrous.
The real poke problem was that the pets were too good for the time level 15 with medium armor was real good, but now the armor rateing is gone on them everyone is double buffed, and pets are near worthless in pvp. I see droids all over the place. Nobody is screaming transformer overload.
I think its a bad rap I see another creature pet what once every few days. Thats how rare ch is on my server, and nobody is takeing out pets to show off anymore, or use pets for anything. I do not think we should be shamed into hideing our profession. Nobody else is ashamed of their professions. The days of overamped non ch pets are long gone now, and still people are afraid that we will get something else taken away.
All I am saying is can chs be allowed to be valued members of the community again. Can we serve a purpose outside of out little pve universe. Give us a reason to go out and tame pets again. Give us a reason to use out training skills again. Can we make something useful for other players again. A smuggler can slice your gun a doctor can buff you a medic can heal you. Why cant a ch give you a useful pet?
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