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Thread: Is Ch Gunna Be Doomed Again
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bkjt
Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:54 pm
#1
Well I just wanna know since this whole solo group nerf.And ppl that hated ch and said how bad it sucked are now picking it up for higher missions.Wich i think is pretty sad,are we gunna get the axe again.i mean finnaly ch has something other professions dont have atm the ability to get higer missions wich i think is something possative for ch since the axe came down on us when pets were the pvp god's back in the day 
. but basically my biggest concern now is all the long time running Mch gunna get another axe chop because every one and there mother is picking it up now? I really hope this will not effect old school Ch's
. but basically my biggest concern now is all the long time running Mch gunna get another axe chop because every one and there mother is picking it up now? I really hope this will not effect old school Ch's
Pluto9Moon
Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:17 am
#2
This is the biggest fallacy alive today. A smuggler with no other skills than the necessary pistols can still slice for higher missions than a CH. My friend pulls in 40K missions all the time on Dant and the best I can do is mid 20K.
Most Commando as well can still get higher missions.
These are viscious lies that do more to damage CH than help it. These same style lies got CH nerfed in the first place. As an MCH I chould no more take out a Commando, BH or TKM than a durni could a rancor. Yet the general public still believed we killed anything and everything.
Even with my best pets out I cannot out missions smugglers or Commandos. Please stop saying this because others will believe it as well.
Most Commando as well can still get higher missions.
These are viscious lies that do more to damage CH than help it. These same style lies got CH nerfed in the first place. As an MCH I chould no more take out a Commando, BH or TKM than a durni could a rancor. Yet the general public still believed we killed anything and everything.
Even with my best pets out I cannot out missions smugglers or Commandos. Please stop saying this because others will believe it as well.
Teioh
Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:20 am
#3
Pluto9Moon wrote:
This is the biggest fallacy alive today. A smuggler with no other skills than the necessary pistols can still slice for higher missions than a CH. My friend pulls in 40K missions all the time on Dant and the best I can do is mid 20K.
Most Commando as well can still get higher missions.
These are viscious lies that do more to damage CH than help it. These same style lies got CH nerfed in the first place. As an MCH I chould no more take out a Commando, BH or TKM than a durni could a rancor. Yet the general public still believed we killed anything and everything.
Even with my best pets out I cannot out missions smugglers or Commandos. Please stop saying this because others will believe it as well.
The only way you can pull 40k missions is with a group + slice. After this payout nerf, you'll be making less than 10k on the 40k missions. Alone, the max without slice is about 10-11k. The only way to get the high difficulty missions and get the full payout is to use a certain sploit
Message Edited by Teioh on 12-11-2004 12:22 AM
ROBO1964
Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:37 am
#4
I agree. Grouping with pets has a "slight" increase on mission lvl but its pretty damn slight. If I take a Dant Mission with no weapon equiped I get lvl 32 missions, If I equip an LLC and group with a Probot and lvl 22 pet I get level 33 missions. I know with Rebel missions on Corellia it raised the mission lvl by 5 levels but still thats very marginal.
So being another class and taking CH to get higher missions would be useless. Maybe if you got 3 reasonable level pets and a probot out you might get a bit better lvl missions but then you would have to be a MCH sothats not a problem. It seems to be based more on the lvl of the pet so unless they go far into CH tree they can't get the benefit, and if you go that far then you won't be able to have a ton of uber fighting skills.
hossp
Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:15 am
#5
it's true, i am mrifle and mch..with a 70 level pet group i can get lvl 47 missions, add a combet droid and i can get lvl57....
a lvl47 bull rancor mission is only about a 50/50 cahnce of having any bulls, about half only have a single rancor and youth..at 57 almost always there is a bull.
i see other professions pull missions in the 70's..and i thought rifle was supposed to be powerful....lol
the pet grouping helps , but in no way is a 'sploit
hi_i_am_new_here
Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:31 am
#6
No, we are not doomed at all. Pluto's right, it is a HUGE controversy and big misconception that we could beat anything. At most my two rancors still get me by, but I am pretty sure any power-gamers left will go for commando or smuggler to get better missions than what CH can dish out.
bkjt
Sat Dec 11, 2004 11:22 am
#7
Contraversy LOL ya any one can pull a 30k mission being in group wich means NOT GETTING FULL PAY OUT.Kinda funny i have many smugglers and many tkm/commando in my guild and none of them can touch my 30k missions i get by my self with my 3 pets.And remeber only me grouped with my pets and me being master swords i get my full payout of 30k from a improved job market.Pluto u can say all the stuff u want about smuggler slicing for 40k missions but Duh they gotta be in solo group to do it and even then they wont get full payout DO U EVEN KNOW THE SOLO MISSIONS HAVE BEEN NERFED Pluto?
bkjt
Sat Dec 11, 2004 11:26 am
#8
Lol i knew i forgot to add something.And this whole conversation is NOT about Difficulty lvl its about being able to get full payout when grouped with pet.Maybe some of use should reread the very first thread very slowly maybe u will understand what im saying then
DarthMarksman
Sat Dec 11, 2004 11:46 am
#9
bkjt wrote:
Well I just wanna know since this whole solo group nerf.And ppl that hated ch and said how bad it sucked are now picking it up for higher missions.Wich i think is pretty sad,are we gunna get the axe again.i mean finnaly ch has something other professions dont have atm the ability to get higer missions wich i think is something possative for ch since the axe came down on us when pets were the pvp god's back in the day
Ok, if I'm to understand your question, basically, you're asking if CH will get nerfed because everyone is picking it up to get higher payouts on their missions?
Why would it?
And the FOTM CHs, I guarantee you they will not be around long. Only those dedicated and who actually enjoy the profession will remain. Yesterday I saw 2 people in Theed who were Novice CH and then I heard them tell someone how they dropped it because the XP took too long. They are now doing other things to make money.
So, I don't think it's a problem, nor will it be a problem.
theorb22
Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:34 pm
#10
bkjt wrote:
Contraversy LOL ya any one can pull a 30k mission being in group wich means NOT GETTING FULL PAY OUT.Kinda funny i have many smugglers and many tkm/commando in my guild and none of them can touch my 30k missions i get by my self with my 3 pets.And remeber only me grouped with my pets and me being master swords i get my full payout of 30k from a improved job market.Pluto u can say all the stuff u want about smuggler slicing for 40k missions but Duh they gotta be in solo group to do it and even then they wont get full payout DO U EVEN KNOW THE SOLO MISSIONS HAVE BEEN NERFED Pluto?
All anger aside It sounds to me like this person has uncovered a stealth CH power boost. before the solo group nerf, me and my 3 pets who's CL adds to 70 got no more than 18k missions, and Im a near master pikeman. Either they stealth boosted CH pet impact on mission payout or they broke something, im guessing broke something since that seems to happen alot.
flabajaba2213
Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:01 pm
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bkjt wrote:
Lol i knew i forgot to add something.And this whole conversation is NOT about Difficulty lvl its about being able to get full payout when grouped with pet.Maybe some of use should reread the very first thread very slowly maybe u will understand what im saying then
Ok, I am not sure about anyone else, but I am taking offense to your post. Not only does your poor use of grammer and spelling hurt my eyes, but your insults hurt my pride and the profession as a whole. This conversation is about difficulty level and full payout.
If you have a higher level mission, then it only seems logical to have harder enemies and a higher reward, correct? What people are afraid of is that a large number of people will come to CH only to get a higher mission for more reward. I this happens, then they are afraid of a "re-balancing" similar to the one that happened last November. Let me tell you, it was not fun loging in that day and seeing that I could no longer control my GSP, Kliknik Defender, or even my Wolf Kima.
I feel that the main reason why people are opposed to this is the fact that CH has been hurt a lot in the past. Everything in the world, be it organic or not, can only take a certain amount of damage before it is overwhelmed. Many of the pre-Nerf Ch's who are still around, and we know there aren't many, fear that if CH is hurt again, it may never recover.
taloncard
Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:19 pm
#12
CH has to be the hardest grind, and the people that want to get it for higher mission payouts will be very disapointed at the days of hardcore grinding that ch will take, there are many much easier ways to make money.
bkjt
Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:37 pm
#13
lol flabar my grammar hurts your eyes o so srry is it the USE that i use guess what o well.And u make it seem like your the only old school ch left.well i have been mch since i started playing wich is 3 weeks after release and yes i have my old school pets the ph,blood mite,ect ect use make it seem like im putting down the ch profession wich I AM NOT another person who needs to reread the first thread and read it slowly.i have been around for all the ch nerfs and what im saying is i dont want another nerf for the fact tons of ppl are picking it up on my server just to get higher payout missions w/o needing a solo group thats what im getting across to ppl but USE dont seem to understand that all USE wanna do is flame my grammar ouch that really hurts me lmfao.And for USE that say ch dont raise the payout is complete bs like i have said before in a improved job market i can get 30k mokk/janta missions lvl 71 with me and my 3 pets.And u go on to say lvl does matter how i would rather fight 4 mokks/jantas for the 30k lvl 71 then 5 of them for the same payout what seems smarter to chose hmmm not a trick question buddy.
o btw i hope USE have a gnight
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