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Thread: So you want to be a Creature Handler. NOOBS LOOK HERE FIRST!!!
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Joker9125
Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:17 pm
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Whats the fastest way to master CH?
There is no quick and easy way to do it in my opinion CH is probably the second hardest grind in the game next to Jedi. You recive CH Xp based on the difference in the CL of the reature/NPC your fighting and the CL of your pet. To get CH XP your pet only has to hit the mob once to recive full xp and rember that if you use a pet with too low a CL you XP gain will be reduced but if you use a pet with to high a CL your XP will be reduced as well so each mob has a "sweet spot" of pet CL that will maximize you XP gain. For instance against blacksuns on endor I was getting around 500 xp with a CL 10 pet but when I used a CL 34 pet I got 1.1k XP per blacksun. Also using two pets at a time will only divide the xp between the pets and will often times give you less overall XP.
I have X ammount of skillpoints where should I put them?
CH is not a profession to dabble in. You will not see any kind of real increase in "power" till you hit master. So to help answer your question heres a breakdown of the CH skill tree.
4/0/0/0
Gives you the ability to tame higher level agressive creatures (the ones that turn red on radar and autoattack you).
0/4/0/0
Gives you more pet storage which is always a good thing.
0/0/4/0
Gives you several good commands such as Enrage (puts your pets in a berserk state for a short time) and Embolen (gives pets a 15% boost in HAM for a short time) and the ability to train the group command.
0/0/0/4
Gives you the ability to train mounts and have two pets out at the same time provided there combined CL dosent exceed your max CL
Which pet is best at X/X/X/X level?
The answer is almost always a BE (BioEngineered) pet. With the exception of a few rares BE pets will always have much better resists, HAM, specials, and a much lower CL than anything in the wild of comparable power. Also unlike other combat profession where the type of gun you use can make a huge difference in combat the pet skin has little to do with how strong a BE pet can be. They can make Durni that will pwn a Rancor.
Is there any way to make money as a CH?
CH is not a money making profession on its own but here are some ways to make some cash. Grouping with pets to raise your mission levels like a solo group is becomming pretty popular and is fairly effective, with CL70 in pets and a CL 18 droid grouped to me I can pull 20k Janthamissions on dantooine. You could also train CL10 mounts for people but dont expect a huge payout from this because people generally dont pay more than a few K and some get offended when you try to ask for an ammount like 10k. Another good way to make cash is to harvest organics for docs. Depending on your server you can get upwards of 150 CPU for good avian meat.
How does CH do as a combat class?
CH has the lowest DPS (Damage Per Second) of any combat class in the game. The highest damage a pet can have under the new BE crafting system is 600ish I belive. This is max damage, gets no multipliers from specials, andis AP0 kinetic damage. Pick up novice marksman and you will double your damage output.
Which profession should I use with CH?
Only you can answer this question. I personally preffer to use a ranged class such as Rifleman so I can send pets in to tank while I stand back from a safe distance and blast whatever critter/NPC is begging to feel my wrath. While others like to be in the thick of things fighting with their pets as a TKM,Swordsman, or other meele class.
Whats the best way to fight with pets?
The best way to fight with pets is to send them in to attack the lairand draw aggro this way while you kill off whatever mob is attacking your pet we call this "tanking". I would advise against using this tactic when trying to tame a baby because you can not tame a baby while it is in combat and this tactic greatly increases the chances that you or your pet will wind up killing the baby.
Can I use pets to solo high end content such as Krayts or NS?
Yes but it takes alot of skill/luck. Your best bet for Krayts is two BE CL 35 pets with intimidate, stunning strike,AR1 and60% kinetic. Get them doc buffed for regen and primary stats and have alot of stims handy. For NPCs such as NS your best bet is a 100% Blast/Stun BE pet and pray that the NS elder you just aggroed will pull a Power Hammer or Stun Baton,because if it pulls anything else your pet is as good as dead.
Ok I get it CH is gimped in combat, but is there any way to make CH viable in PvP?
I personally use pets successfully in PvP. The key is to use pets to land state effects like dizzy, intimidate, posture down, and stun while you focus on doing damage to your opponent. Keep in mind that this is only in one on one duels and small scale group encounters where I can focus on one opponent and put all my energies and efforts on him/her. In large scale PvP your better off leaving the pets at home.
Thats all for now and if any of youcan think of anything to add please do so.
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Rodan44
Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:18 pm
#2
Nice work! 
Seems to cover the most commonly asked questions in this forum.
hossp
Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:02 am
#3
nice work joker...something people often overlook on how to make money as a ch, is the scout training you have...you can make millions, i have, by collecting organic resources, simply by "harvest resources" from what you killed anyhow...unfortunately many ch's feel they are above this..not sure why
ChefGenius
Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:36 am
#4
Excellent and 5 stars for you. But I agree with hossp. 50k of a good spawn of organic resources is not masses of work (especially Dath Carn for example) even with just 4040 scout, and can provide a VERY stable source of regular income. I make approx 1 million a month on organic resources alone.
Joker9125
Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:12 am
#5
Thanks everyone I just hope my bad grammer didnt make this too hard to read . Ohh and I added harvesting as a money maker
. Ohh and I added harvesting as a money makerMessage Edited by Joker9125 on 02-08-2005 08:18 AM
Message Edited by Joker9125 on 02-08-2005 09:59 AM
Kudali
Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:45 pm
#8
Very nice! This should be stickied, hopefully it would cut down on all those posts...
-kudali
-kudali
Iakimo
Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:19 pm
#9
Five stars from me, too! Your posts are showing a pattern: Articulate, incisive, and well-laid out.
I'd suggest one change, though, and that's to your "tanking" tactics. Having the pet attack the lair will ruin your chance to tame babies, because they'll aggro and help defend the lair when they spawn.
Here's how I do it:
- /maskscent
- Kill all the surface creatures, ordering your pet to attack each for maximum CH xp. Concentrate on one creature at a time to take it down as quickly as possible.
- Harvest whatever seems best.
- With scent still masked, tap the lair ONE TIME ONLY. Then hit the "Peace" button and back off to 50+ meters and wait. This will allow the lair to release the first wave of creatures as the damaged lair begins to deteriorate. If you're not attacking the lair when they spawn, the creatures -- INCLUDING BABIES -- will not emerge and go aggro until you attack! This will give you a chance to tame any babies that spawn.
- Tame any babies you want, then kill the rest and harvest from the corpses. Be sure to order your pet to attack each creature as you go.
- Attack the lair again, chipping away at it until it's down to roughly 55% of its original health. Then "Peace" out again, and wait for the lair's deterioration to again work its magic and release the next (non-aggro'd) spawn. Dont forget to mask your scent again, if needed.
- Repeat Step #5
- Kill the lair.
Q: Anything else I need to know?
Watch the "social" patterns of the creatures as you attack. Each creature type has some sort of AI routine built into them, and it's part of the fun to learn their patterns and use their behavior against them. For example, male kaadus will rush to the defense of any females being attacked, while females will hang in the background unless attacked. Therefore, you can improve your odds by killing off the males first.
At higher levels, thunes exhibit similar defensive instincts: the male Thune Herd Leaders and the female Hostile Thune Mothers will always rush to defend each other, but they have a tendency to ignore attacks on run-of-the-mill thune peons. Not always, but often enough to make it possible to pick off an isolated regular thune. The regular thunes will still rush to defend Leaders and Mothers, though, so the thing to do is pick off any isolated thunes first. This is important, because each subtype of Thune sports a different special attack, and as a group, they're much more dangerous than alone. Regular thunes will intimidate you; Hostile Thune Mothers will blind you; and Thune Herd Leaders and Thune Grassland Guardians dish out Cripple and Dizzy special attacks. A full group of thunes are like a military combined-arms attack. Pick off the isolated thunes first, and your attack odds improve greatly.
Vertexon
Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:36 pm
#10
Great post, and very informative. The one section I would kind of disagree with is your statement "CH by itself is the weakest profession in the game." The rest of the paragraph makes it clear you're talking about damage-dealing, but that initial statement seems a bit overgeneralized by comparison.
The one section I would kind of disagree with is your statement "CH by itself is the weakest profession in the game." The rest of the paragraph makes it clear you're talking about damage-dealing, but that initial statement seems a bit overgeneralized by comparison.
taloncard
Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:29 pm
#12
Vertexon wrote:Great post, and very informative.
True we can kick the a$$ of any Master merchant, artisan, taylor that comes our way
Joker9125
Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:25 am
#13
taloncard wrote:
Vertexon wrote:
Great post, and very informative.
True we can kick the a$$ of any Master merchant, artisan, taylor that comes our way
We gotta be carefull of those novice marksman though
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