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Thread: More rares!
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Rylec
Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:10 am
#1
I was pondering again.
With the new system and (hopefully) increased storage/DL control I'm having another 8 slots to fill. Since I'm a rare hunter I was thinking what an excellent oppertunity for the devs to make most of a prof community happy by adding a few more rares to the game. Small step - find database, check flag, enter baby spawn rate, enter, save, many players happy and if the creatures are in check powervise with what we already have, then there is no excuse not to do this!
Please list the the three creatures you would like to see the most as a new rare tamable and why.
The three creatures I would love to see the most are:
1) Mire Marauder (DL 56 - spawning rate 1%) - I would love to see this cat in my datapad. A GPS skin but way cooler colours. Make it 1% to make it the new hard to get GPS twin!
2) Arachne Queen (DL 63 - spawning rate 0.5%) - I'm a spider guy. This would be the trophy spider to have.
3) Frenzied Graul (spawning rate 0.1%) - Just increase the spawning rate!
And maybe 1 or 2 creatures from the new planet 
jopenack
Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:17 am
#2
Rylec I like your style man, can never hurt to ask
One piece of advice, the devs are like car salesman if you start too low they will still beat you down and toss in a lil something to make you feel like you got a little bit back lol.
So that being said ask for the rare rates to be increased by 20%, then if they actually listen and give you what you want they will probaly drop or leave the rates as is untill you barter (scream) and they toss you a 1% increase lol.
Good luck and I hope we do get more tamables also, creatures worthy of a slot in my datapad.
hossp
Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:23 am
#3
i don't think he wants a rate increase, other than the frenzied..i think an increse in rate for the "tamable" rares would belittle the efforts of thos who got them in the currents spawnrate system, i hope they make a couple of the new animal anywhere from .1(bull) to 5%, to give the rare hunter something to do..i'm sure a few will be 25%( the default) so every sp will be full of them for a few weeks..lol
jopenack
Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:59 am
#4
Truthfully hossp the whole rare thing should be dismantled and evrything given the same rate of spawn.
This isn't a trophy that is earned imo its pure luck lol not to mention the fact its even in this game to keep you playing for months and months untill you get something you have wanted.
Its no better than the grind in my eyes, just another way to entice people to pay for another month and in the end they get something they cant use because it plain bites lol. or they cant risk the vitality loss.
Its no different from the painting i got on lifeday,
Sorry if anyone feels I'm insulting to the rare hunters and collectors but its how I feel. There is very little reward for such extreme odds in finding anything rare.
Other than the chance to post here and get congrats for a few days.
I would rather see all tamables brought to a reasonable fair chance of spawnage and drop this facade of wow I earned this I'm so special lol. meanwhile soe laughs at the ch and say
"look at this idiot paying us to keep him jumping through hoops. Hope he looks for a f-graul next I will be able to afford my new car at the rate these guys are going"
Anobaca
Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:15 am
#5
jopenack wrote:
Truthfully hossp the whole rare thing should be dismantled and evrything given the same rate of spawn.
This isn't a trophy that is earned imo its pure luck lol not to mention the fact its even in this game to keep you playing for months and months untill you get something you have wanted.
Its no better than the grind in my eyes, just another way to entice people to pay for another month and in the end they get something they cant use because it plain bites lol. or they cant risk the vitality loss.
Its no different from the painting i got on lifeday,
Sorry if anyone feels I'm insulting to the rare hunters and collectors but its how I feel. There is very little reward for such extreme odds in finding anything rare.
Other than the chance to post here and get congrats for a few days.
I would rather see all tamables brought to a reasonable fair chance of spawnage and drop this facade of wow I earned this I'm so special lol. meanwhile soe laughs at the ch and say
"look at this idiot paying us to keep him jumping through hoops. Hope he looks for a f-graul next I will be able to afford my new car at the rate these guys are going"
As someone that finally tamed a Bull rancor I can say I agree with you that rares need to be increased in spawns. Till this daymy favorite tame for me is the first grual mauler (MaulMe) I tamed on dath a long time ago when frienzed gruals still had babies and the hardest thing was staying alive to get to were they likes to hang out. The funny thing is that little bugger chased me intot he imperial prison for over a hour but once he grew up he would run fom a fight when he was half health lol. His sister came with me on first try and she never runs and has stood toe to toe with some of the meanest things in game. Sure love my maul twins hehe
VoodooVelvet
Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:36 am
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Rylec wrote:
I was pondering again.
With the new system and (hopefully) increased storage/DL control I'm having another 8 slots to fill. Since I'm a rare hunter I was thinking what an excellent oppertunity for the devs to make most of a prof community happy by adding a few more rares to the game. Small step - find database, check flag, enter baby spawn rate, enter, save, many players happy and if the creatures are in check powervise with what we already have, then there is no excuse not to do this!
Please list the the three creatures you would like to see the most as a new rare tamable and why.
1.) Gurks,.( I wrote a whole story down about the one time at the start of the game when almost everything was tamable thatI saw a baby one, It would mean alot to me to finish the story by taming one, aside from that they are cool and nym can have one so, so should I)
2.) Remmers,.(there werid why not)
3.) I was kinda hopeing all the creatures from the new planet would be tameable, but if not then yeah somthing from there
velm
Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:57 am
#7
I think there should be a set of common/uncommon/rare creatures. I enjoy the search for some of the rares. The MOST exciting times in the game have been:
first time I tamed a rancor
first time i SAW a GPS
first time I saw a 'Bull Rancor (baby)'
If all the creatures are increased in the rate in which they spawn, then what fun would it have been if I say 'yet ANOTHER Bull Rancor baby'? The same could be said when I saw the GPS. If the spawn was as a carrion spat or swamp gurrcat spawn, it would have been just another day.
I believe they should have more creatures for us to tame, especially at higher levels, and not have them all difficult to obtain, but to still have some that are hard to find.
Some may view it as a 'grind' to find the creatures, I rarely do. I have been a MCH for a while and enjoy my time in the wilds of Dath searching for my Bull Rancor (baby) unbuffed and unarmored. Sure, it may take me a while to take out a lair, but I like the fact that I can do something like that. I will see people in the outposts on dath all armored up, and all buffed up getting on their speeders and heading out. While I go there with some Clothes and food and my trusty pets and explore the landscape.
Message Edited by velm on 04-08-2005 11:00 PM
jopenack
Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:20 pm
#8
I understand what everyone is saying and in theory agree to a point, but this system of rares is totally wrong imo, as someone pointed out they're favorite tame was a graul mauler.
here i agree,
when the game was new, no mounts/vehicel no buffs/armor I went to dath (yes dath for you who came later grauls were indiginous to dath not dant). I travelled there for days searching for grauls and rancors, I discovered the true rancor/graul valley far to the west a great revine filled with em everywhere,
dangerouse beyond belief at this time. getting there was total risk, you were lucky to survive half way there let alone make it. Long story short after days offailure and cloning I acheived my goal of2 baby grauls and a rancor. I wasnt master yet and there was no bio clothing, I was able to get the babies but even having them agro meant death, running and surviving was total fun. my hands shook and real sweat and fear eminated of my body.
That is risk vs reward, not luck as it is set in todays game.
These spawn rates are nothing but a lottery, there is hardly any risk other than the over inflated agro sytem that just recently was put in place.
Sorry but I do undertsand you want and need of finding rares, I once was like you. But my opinion has changed and I see it as an attempt to keep ch chasing shadows while paying a fee for it.
Its totally unfair to do this to all ch, the more you promote it the more soe pats themselves on the back while snickering behind yours.
Lets see if they fix this in a month lol yea right.
since they can walk up to a lair and spawn a baby as Joker has seen. lets see em spawn a frenzied graul on TC and prove they exist. then I may believe half the dog kaka they toss out to us as content.
sorry but I have been disapointed far too often in 2 years too believe this is content and fun lol
/bows to all
jopenack
Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:32 pm
#9
jopenack wrote:
Truthfully hossp the whole rare thing should be dismantled and evrything given the same rate of spawn.
This isn't a trophy that is earned imo its pure luck lol not to mention the fact its even in this game to keep you playing for months and months untill you get something you have wanted.
Its no better than the grind in my eyes, just another way to entice people to pay for another month and in the end they get something they cant use because it plain bites lol. or they cant risk the vitality loss.
Vert wrote
The thing is, though, there's a large group of people who feel this is worthwhile and enjoyable, just as there are people who feel it's worthwhile and enjoyable to grind XP or farm NPCs for loot. Different strokes for different folks. There's no reason to give everything the same rate of spawn. All that would do is destroy this playstyle for the rare hunting folks, while giving a handful of (in most cases) average pets to everyone else. Would anyone care about the GPS at all if it wasn't rare?
If you don't enjoy rare hunting, you're not being forced to do it. No one is required to tame bull rancors or great plains stalkers to succeed in this profession. Plenty of much easier tames to be had, like regular rancors or greater sludge panthers. Or you can even go to your local BE's vendor and buy an offthe shelfpet with no work required.
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vert I may have said make em the same but further down also said make the rates reasonable
and please I was once a rare hunter enjoyment was replaced with a futile search for a frenzied graul baby.
I loved taming and still do. unfortunatly even the rares are crap compared to a be pet, in todays wild tame possiblities there is little to be desired. will this change who knows? if you do then say it lol
if it doesnt change and it rolls on and on then its just foolish to continue down a road meant to string you along for money.. personally as for going and buying a pet no work required "it is not my style"
also that no one is forcing you crap lol reminds me of the if you dont like it quit sentences that fly around the forums. Its garbage imo.
Just as you post your opinions and the people here have posted theyr's I have posted mine
guess no one is forcing anyone to read it or agree with it either lmao
Vertexon
Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:19 pm
#10
Okay, you are definitely entitled to your opinion. But you still haven't convinced me why it's necessary for people who don't like the "lottery" system to have a bull rancor in the first place. Is there an actual reason the people who enjoy rare hunting should have their playstyle forcibly deleted in order to accomplish this? Why is the mere existence of this playstyle somehow a threat to you, and why should your desires trump theirs?
jopenack
Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:43 pm
#11
Its not the fact the lottery system exist's its the fact that somepeople looked for6 months and playing for 3 hours a dayand more on the weekends still did not find abull rancor never mind a frenzied graul. while it is also true one person found one first time out (and we all know who he is lol) You must admit the current formula is aweful.
Thats why I liked the risk vs reward method of old much better than the so-called rares and ultra rare listings that followed the ch revamp.
yes I can be emotional and that is because my favorite aspect of ch was totally ruined for me, disgruntled lol yes at times, do I stop and look for babies while travelling doing other things? yes always.
The real reason why people are CH is for the find, tame, and raising of pets, any who do not care for this usually leave the profession within a few months.
It is why we are here.
yes in my emotional rant lol I said make it all the same but even as I typed it I new better, even I would be bored. There must be a reasonable balance to the chances of finding any baby.
6 months unacceptable imo, 1.5 yrs unacceptable imo
This is biggest gripe many ch have to see let alone tame a frenzied baby.
a good example of an equitable solution imho isa frezied graul baby spawn should be set to the number of a bull rancor spawn rate number and the bull rancor raised to a slightly higher reasonable number.
Even hossp who imo has always been one of the more optimistic people refuses to search for a frenzied baby since the math, which he concluded, was totally against his chances of finding one. while I am sure on dant he stopstolook but he will not devote time to it with any hope of finding one.
he said as much in another thread
Vert this isn't fun it has the opposite effect and tunes people out and pushes them away from trying when they are met withnothing but dissapointment and frustration.
And while i am typing and thinking clearly and have vented off my over emotional attachment to this profession lol. I hope you see my point, even if you dont agree with it.
GadonThek
Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:52 pm
#12
Vertexon wrote:Okay, you are definitely entitled to your opinion. But you still haven't convinced me why it's necessary for people who don't like the "lottery" system to have a bull rancor in the first place. Is there an actual reason the people who enjoy rare hunting should have their playstyle forcibly deleted in order to accomplish this? Why is the mere existence of this playstyle somehow a threat to you, and why should your desires trump theirs?
It's the same mentality, in my view, as those who insist the CU will suck because they will no longer be able to solo krayts etc, except in reverse. They want to keep their ability to do high-end content all alone, because they want instant gratification. They dont want to wait for a group. They dont want to deal with other people. They dont want to be dependant on others.
This bloke(and no offense, this is just how I see it, correct me if Im wrong) seems to want all the creatures. All of 'em, now, right now, after 10 minutes of looking for a lair *pop* there's your baby. He doesnt want someone else to have something he doesnt have, so from his viewpoint it makes more sense to make that item more available than work with the current system, because he likely doesnt have enough time to be a rare hunter(lord knows, I certainly dont
).
jopenack
Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:07 pm
#13
GadonThek
ah Bloke
then no offense lol a lil late there bud. did you read my followup post's
or the story of my first grauls
been here since launch I know about patience and the joys of pets, ch is why I bought this game not because of the title SWG
you assume much in your assumtion of me. I have had a Bull Rancor I gave it to a friend who was frustrated to all ends and needed a lil pick me up.
That is who I am, If you are a true friend to me then you have whatever I have. it is my nature in real life as it is ingame.
I have devoted more time to helping friends ingame than helping myself, devoting time to find babies was a rarity for me a year ago. only because friends needed me more often than not.
I dont expect nor want anything free, work for it lol this I find funny "if you only new"
try rereading all my post's here then come back and talk to me, better yet forget it.
your opinions noted
no offense taken
thank you for your lovely opinion of my character and It has helped me form on of yours also
back to the subject at hand
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