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Thread: A Creature Handlers Guide to PvP.

Joker9125
Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:57 am
#1


I have broken this guide down into 9 sections.


1. Foreword


2. Gear Preparation


3. Pets


4. State Information


5. Macros


6. Pre-Duel Preparation


7. Strategy


8. Advantages


9. Weaknesses

Message Edited by Joker9125 on 02-28-2005 11:04 AM



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Joker9125
Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:58 am
#2


3. Pets


Get yourself some good BE pets for PvP. It might cost alot (I've got close to 2 mill in my datapad) but the end result will be well worth it. The pets I use are 3 gurreck triplets with ar1 and 55% and up kinetic resist with the following combo of specials. Each combo is on a different pet for a reason which I will explain later.


Pet1


dizzy/blind


Pet2


strong poison/Intimidate


Pet3


cripple strike/stunning strike




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Joker9125
Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:00 pm
#3



5. Macros


Most people will tell you that looping macros are a BAD thing in PvP, but you need to remember that these people are also NOT MCHs. Ok now make sure your toolbar has 2 rows cause ur gonna need to make 10 macros/hotkeys. F1-F4 are my main attack keys, shift+F5-F8 are where the looping tellpet macros will go, F5 is where my healing macro goes, and F12 is where my looping headshot3 macro goes. trust me when I say using a pause of 0.1 or no pause at all in a looping tellpet macro is a bad thing. Ive lagged my machine so bad from running all these macros without a pause that I actually got the "Connection to SWG lost" message before. Not only does it cause lag it also backs up your pets combat queue and makes swapping between specials difficult. Now lemme tell you what to put in the macro text.


Here is the format for writing the macros


-------------------------------------------------------


MacroName (all notes will go in ( ) )


macro text


-------------------------------------------------------


PeaceStand (goes in the F1 box)


/dump;


/ui action clearCombatQueue;


/peace;


/stand;


/healdamage;



PostDown (goes in the F2 box)


/dump (keeps you from stacking already running macros and lagging out your machine)


/ui action toolbarSlot11;


/tellpet come; (the pets follow me comand)


/ui action toolbarSlot16;


/ui action toolbarSlot17;


/ui action toolbarSlot18;



StuningStrike (goes in the F3 box)


/dump


/ui action toolbarSlot11;


/tellpet come; (the pets follow me comand)


/ui action toolbarSlot16;


/ui action toolbarSlot17;


/ui action toolbarSlot19;



HealMind (goes in the F4 box)


/dump;


/tellpet come;


/ui action toolbarSlot10;



HealDamage (goes in the F5 box)


/ui action clearCombatQueue;


/healdamage;



trick (goes in the F11 box)


/tellpet trick1; (the pets trick1 command)


/macro trick; (no pause is ok for this 1 macro)



HeadShot3


/headshot3;


/pause .8; (sometimes lag will cause you to autoattack in between headshots so this keeps 2 headshots queued at all times)


/macro HeadShot3;



dump (goes in the Shift+F4 box)


/dump;



DizzyBlind (goes in Shift+F5 box)


/tellpet dizzy; (the pets dizzy command)


/pause 1;


/tellpet dizzy;


/pause 1;


/tellpet blind; (the pets blind command)


/pause 1;


/macro DizzyBlind;(my macro name)



IntimPoison (goes in Shift+F6 box)


/tellpet intim; (the pets intimidate command)


/pause 1;


/macro IntimPoison;



Stun (goes in Shift+F7 box)


/tellpet stun (the pets stunning strike command)


/pause 1;


/macro stun;



Cripple (goes in the Shift+F8 box)


/tellpet cripple; (the pets cripple strike command)


/pause 1;


/macro Cripple;

Message Edited by Joker9125 on 02-28-2005 11:27 AM



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Velitham MCH
Joker9125
Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:01 pm
#4


6. Pre-Duel Preparation


First get doc, musican, and dancer buffs(it would also be a good idea to get poison/disease buffs). Its important to remember to take 2 brandy right after the mind buff so you can give yourself time to digest it in case you need to take another or something else later on. Now right before the duel call your pets and take an Ithordian mist then some KD food followed by sysnthsteak and/or chornahulla if needed.




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Velitham MCH
Joker9125
Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:05 pm
#5

Ok I hope you enjoyed reading my guide and if you find any flaws in it please point them out so I can correct them.



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Velitham MCH
hossp
Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:18 pm
#6

seems very well thought out, although i don't much participate in pvp,i find the macro information should be usefull for high end pve mobs...good job!!



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JMShunter
Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:33 pm
#7

im definitly using some of these tell pet macros thanks a lot



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GlenSharkio
Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:55 pm
#8

/cry
Jedi hit pets for 16000 dmg ??

that is truly insane.

I personally hate fighting Jedi, CM, Riflemen, TKM, Swordsmen and Fencers. All of them can virtually 'insta-gib' my pets... oh and me

ana-mo-cara
Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:38 pm
#9

Interesting post, but is very contingent on useing pet state attacks, and those are still quite buggy for my atleast. I have pretty much conceded that my pet is not going to stick a state atleast it will not when I tell it too. One of my biggest gripes. I spent alot of time working out good resists on my pets, and more particularly getting decent attacks. Unfortunately I have never actually gotten a pet to successfully stick a state. I will have to try that some more now. Maybe the devs put some fixes in, but as of two months ago it still did not work for me.


Here is how I usually go about pvp. My template is MBH/CH/medic


First off I hit a sprayshot with my carbine. Damn near required it sticks blind dizzy and stun. Trust me if my pets knockdowns actually worked. I would be wasteing players left and right. I would simply dizzy you and let me pet do a working knockdown. Pinning move there, but like I said last I checked pet state attacks were still broken. Anyway this futzes melee fighters evasions up means they will take more damage.


Next I flip up to my trusty scatter pistol. I am going to hit torso shot as many times as humanely possible sprinkled with some bleeding shot. No doubt about it the game is prefaced on dots at the moment, and thats whats going to cut right through your armor. Far better to have a player burning and bleeding. After about 30 seconds I will switch up to another scatter pistol to keep the stacking going. I am not satisfied till I see minus five hundred marks flying off of you.


Next I hit burstrun good advice for all chs. Especially if the terrain favors you and your not pinned into a tight space. This can buy you fifteen to twenty seconds if your positioned well, and gives you more time for the dots to mess them up.


Only at this point do I use my pet. Odds are he will land 1 hit maybe, and that isnt really going to keep the guy I am fighting at bay for even 2 seconds. I am looking to get the most out of my pet. At this point the guy already has a dot working on him. So in all likelihood he will not see damage being dealt by the pet. This means the pet isnt going to take a powerhit which is what usually wastes a pet in the first place. Might get a few hits in with my pet now. If the guy turns to pop my pet its still all good I get to have even more distance to work with.


Finally even after being toasted bleed and sprayed. The enemy is still beating me then I will fall back on a desperation tactic and fall back on my carbine again pop another spray and start hitting knockdown and praying. If it sticks I have a ninety percent chance of winning, because at that point I can keep the enemy pinned.


Like I said if pet state attacks really worked. I would be nigh unstoppable. I would simply sprayshot you and use 1 or even 2 pets with knockdown attacks and pin your rear to the ground. I would continue to use sprayshot while my pets ate someone alive.


Masterfish
Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:34 am
#10

That's very interestin. I want to cut your suggestions and paste em on a word document. The problem is I am a Carbineer, so I can't bring so much damage as a rifleman, and (until Combat Upgrade) i'm not faster than you.

Another things to add:

- I cannot hit Mind

-Pets poison attack is broken.



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Ekaw
Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:39 am
#11

good job. thanks.



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ana-mo-cara
Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:36 am
#12

Yeah that burns my britches. I have a woolamander with strong poison and strong disease, and he has enough ham to apply them. Sadly he will never do that, and personally I think it is not a bug. Its bugged intentionally, because god forbid ch gets a poison attack working in a game where everyone and his brother has a poison weapon on hand. You can loot 1 an hour if you put your mind to it.
Joker9125
Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:46 am
#13






ana-mo-cara wrote:

Interesting post, but is very contingent on useing pet state attacks, and those are still quite buggy for my atleast. I have pretty much conceded that my pet is not going to stick a state atleast it will not when I tell it too. One of my biggest gripes. I spent alot of time working out good resists on my pets, and more particularly getting decent attacks. Unfortunately I have never actually gotten a pet to successfully stick a state. I will have to try that some more now. Maybe the devs put some fixes in, but as of two months ago it still did not work for me.



Like I said if pet state attacks really worked. I would be nigh unstoppable. I would simply sprayshot you and use 1 or even 2 pets with knockdown attacks and pin your rear to the ground. I would continue to use sprayshot while my pets ate someone alive.






My pets stick specials fairly regularly. All the ones above work on command and I constantly see the specials being fired above there heads. The reason they dont stick as often is cause people generally have high defenses against most states




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