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Rewd

Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:47 pm

I'm not a CH and know almost nothing of the profession. I've been wanting to get a mountable Bantha for when I'm on Kashyyyk but I can't figure out how to get one thats mountable. I see they can only be below level 10 for a Non-CH to use them... well, there are Banthas below level 10 listed on the Bazaar. So what do I do? Do I buy say a level 10 bantha and bring it to a CH to have him train to be mountable? What about if I buy a Bantha thats below level 10? Is it possible for me to train it up to level 10 or can only a CH do that?

Also, I think I read somewhere that only non-engineered pets can be mountable. Is that true? If so, how can I tell what pets on the bazaar aren't BE.

thanks!

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black-eye

Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:51 pm

#2

all u need is a deed or a active pet that reaches the necessary size to get mounted ( cant say at which level this will be, but a level 10 bantha should reach the size, probably at level 6 ), but to let the pet grow u need to use it in combat, not sure if a non CH gets the pet xp, if not u would need a CH to level the pet for u.... and u need a CH at least to get it trained, mounted and if u want named.

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Rewd

Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:54 pm

#3

I got the level 10 thing from the FAQ so I guess that would be the right size for it to be then...? Ok, so I get a level 10 bantha from the bazaar and I take to a CH to have it trained. How long does this usually take? can he simply do a few commands then transfer back to me or is training for a mount a process that will take some time?

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sciguyCO

Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:06 pm

#4

If you see a pet deed on a vendor or bazaar, it's a BE pet. Only creatures created bya BE come in deed form, when a CH tames a creature it goes straight into the datapad and can't be placed on a vendor.

A pet's CL will never change, so you don't have to "train it up" to level 10. However, baby creatures (and maybe just-tamed BE pets) are smaller than their adult size, and need to be used in order to grow. This can only be done by a CH, a non-CH player using a pet does not gain any pet xp.

The issue with engineered pets and mounts is due to a change in how CL affects creature size. If a BE made a CL 10 Bantha, it'd end up smaller than a wild Bantha (which are normally CL 13). In all cases (at least all that I've seen), this "shrinkage" means that the pet never gets large enough to be mountable, since a creature has to grow to a particular size in order to be trained as a mount.

For a non-CH, I think your options on tamable mounts would be lesser plains bols, Cu Pas, plodding falumpasets, lesser dewbacks, and maybe dwarf banthas (although babies of these are tough to track down). There's also the varactyl (reward with RotW digital download, can be purchased from another player) and the bolotaur (reward from the clone relics quest starting with the imprisoned Geonosian on Kash). These are CL 10 creatures, and are already set up as mounts.

Kriles Ch'artoff , Chilastra server
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Currently doing....stuff

Whirr

Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:30 pm

#5

There is also the Kashyyyk bantha pet reward that I believe is part of the quest for unlocking your entrance into Etyyy or is a reward for an Etyyy quest.

BeregonStrongblade

Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:35 pm

#6

On a related note, Ijust got a CL4 Lesser Dewback trained as a mount, but it's the same size as my CL10 BE Dewback that I once had...he's tiny! LOL

Here are the stats on my Dewback:

Level : 4

Trainable abilities: 4

Training Points: 98

Training XP: 393/4300

First off, will he get any bigger if his XP reached the full 4300? I know I can't get pet XP as I'm not a CH, but I'm wondering if I give him to a CH to finish training will he grow more? I'm assuming that Lesser Dewbies are the only Dewbacks a non-CH can use as a mount...is this correct?

Message Edited by BeregonStrongblade on 09-09-2005 02:35 PM

black-eye

Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:40 pm

#7

since CH patch the growth of a pet is related to its maturity level, which each level it gains it will grow , but the CL affects the maximum size.... this results in high level BE durnis growing to 3m tall monster bunnies, while a CL 70 BE Kimogila will remain ever a lot smaller then its wild relatives of 78+ levels.

I know pre patch BE CL10 banthas reached the size to get mounted, im not sure if they do still in the new system, but im quiet sure they do. Otherwise u would need to choose for example wild pets with maximum CL 10... as levels were adjusted new I cant say for sure which pets there are for u... guess its lesser dewbacks, lesser bols and Carrion Spats.

Or u get urself a Kashyyyk mount, the Kashyyyk bantha is a reward from a quest in the Etyyy hunting grounds, speak to Mada Johnson in the tree in kacchiro and then with brody johnson in the arcona compound in Etyyy

///black-eye - deadly nerfed lizard///

sciguyCO

Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:54 pm

#8

BeregonStrongblade wrote:

First off, will he get any bigger if his XP reached the full 4300? I know I can't get pet XP as I'm not a CH, but I'm wondering if I give him to a CH to finish training will he grow more? I'm assuming that Lesser Dewbies are the only Dewbacks a non-CH can use as a mount...is this correct?

Pet xp isn't really something that can be "full". At 4300 xp, the dewback gains a "maturity level", which grants training points, possibly a trainable ability slot (this gain is random, up to the max slots for the creature's CL), and then rolls over back to 0 xp. A CL 4 creature gets 7 training points per maturity level, so this dewback has been leveled 14 times.

Given that, I'm thinking that unless it can currently be trained as a mount, it never will. I thought adult size was supposed to be reached at around 6-8 maturity levels. How does his size compare to wild lesser dewbacks?

Kriles Ch'artoff , Chilastra server
Master Chef (retired)
Currently doing....stuff

BeregonStrongblade

Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:10 pm

#9

Ahhh..I got what you're saying about the xp and training points. Makes perfect sense. My Dewbie is trained as a mount, but he's still pretty small. However, I just ran to Tat and found a lair of CL12 Lessers and my CL4 is about twice as big as them....go figure! LOL Oh well...he's still pretty sweet! lol

Trash

Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:30 am

#10

If you can find a CH whos willing to hunt you down a wild mount, the dwarf banthas which are level 10 do grow large enough to become mounts. I believe they required 8 or 9 maturity levels before they were large enough to take the mount command tho. I gave a friend a dwarf bantha mount about 3 weeks ago.

Onimo Senai, Starsider

Kyree-Sunrunner

Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:51 pm

#11

Whirr wrote:
There is also the Kashyyyk bantha pet reward that I believe is part of the quest for unlocking your entrance into Etyyy or is a reward for an Etyyy quest.

The Kashyyyk Bantha is a quest reward for the Find Brody Johnson quest given by Mada Johnson at the Great Tree in Kachiro. You do have to have access to Etyyy to complete this quest.

Grambacca

Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:57 am

#12

Because of the issue of pet size = CL a lot of BE made pets do not grow large enough to be mount trainable for a non-CH now.

There a re only 2 CL10 BE made pets that are mount trainable. Dewbacks and Falumpasets.

So if you buy a CL10 Dewback deed off the bazaar you can take that to a CH and have him:

1) Tame it (i.e. create the actual pet from the deed. You can also do this step yourself)

2) The CH can train the pet any commands you want it to have and also name it if you desire.

3) The CH then uses the pet in combat until it has gained enough training xp to rollover several experince levels so the pet is fully mature.

4) The CH can then train it as a mount.

5) The CH can also train any Special abilities that he knows and you want your mount to have (i.e. Knockdown etc)

Please do NOT expect to only pay 5,000 credits or so for this service. It takes a bit of time for the CH to level up a pet like this. You can expect to probably pay no less than 100,000 credits for a mount and even more if you have any Special abilities added to the mount.

Message Edited by Grambacca on 09-12-2005 03:15 PM

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SioBabble

Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:19 am

#13

Great responses from the CH community on this question, all the bases have been covered.

Ko, I think this should be made sticky, or included in the FAQ, or something. Good work here!

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