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Thread: Higher CL glitch?

Aerontako_Shretalon
Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:43 am
#1

Te night before last I saw someone with 4 pets out at once. Said it was a mount glitch, but I tried to perform it and didn't get anything other than normal. He was also able to command all 4 pets. Last night, there was a CH with 3 Razorcats out, CL 24, 25, and 26 (CL75 total). They said they were special and refused to give me a streight answer. Also, was able to control the pets.


Am I missing something here?
Galacium
Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:41 am
#2

There are certainly bugs that allow you to get out extra pets. Using them is considered an exploit and I wouldn't recomend it.



There are also legitimate ways to do that, which is to have someone befreind pets to you. I'm not sure if you can still see who owns them like you used to. I used to loan my pets to my wife's characters fairly often. I've seen ch's in a group befreiend all the pets to one person for easy control, but it dosn't work well unless they all share the same commands.



I've also encountered rounding errors in pet levels such that you can go to CL 71, but that was a long time ago. And of course there were the stupid CL 0/1 pets that were actualy much higher level, but I beleieve they finaly got rid of those. I wouldn't be terribly suprised if they don't have some new pet bug. And of course imature pets are lower level, so it could have just been that they were not full grown yet.





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Chacca
Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:44 am
#3

I know there was an easy way to do this back before a patch Pre-CU. Back then if you had the time and patience you could call and control every pet in your data pad. That way does not work anymore. Are you sure all the pets were his? How does the friend command work with pets? I have never used it. Maybe one of those pets belong to another CH and he was having it obey the other CH.
Spazzers
Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:56 am
#4

If this is that same old bug as before, there are a number of ways to have more than the allowed number out. WAY back when, a friend and I were hunting dragonets. We were young and wimpy in those early days. He had a BE'd CL15 pet I'd made. He died and cloned but his pet remained with me. When he got out of the cloners he called his pet again. He ran back to find me and his pet waiting for him and his pet. You can call it an exploit but in some cases these pets are called without knowing the pet is already called.


I've seen people spam their pet call and end up calling more than the allowed number. I've seen people call pets at server boundaries that allowed them to call too many. I've seen creature handler and non-creature handler alike. The bug is very old. It doesn't surprise me at all, however, to find the bug still exists in some form or another.


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Aerontako_Shretalon
Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:52 am
#5

All 3 Razorcat belonged to the same person. Not sure how the friend command works, but he stored all 3 the second I asked and meantioned reporting an exploit.
theorb22
Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:55 am
#6

I think I know about the method people are using in this exploit, and while it would be highly valid to obtain balance in PvP, (Yes, healing is that strong I wouldn't be surprised if 7 mounts couldn't kill a good PvPer, especially a Jedi) it would be highly illegal, so don't dupe pets :/. I also believe this same exact dupe was supposedly patched before the CU, add another something to CH that the CU broke if you please.





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theorb22
Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:37 pm
#7






Hardley wrote:
It's an exploit ... well calling three pets that total greater than 70 CL is for sure, but I know for aFACT that this "exploit" has been around for at least a year and a half without the DEVs fixing it so ... they must not care if we use it right??? Letting something go for that long sort of makes it ok to do by default right? Ah, I wish!





All I know is, CSRs drop DJMs on people who grind on wookie world, and don't drop them in the middle of theed when people dupe their varactyls .





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Hardley
Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:53 pm
#8

Well, all I can say is that this "exploit" has been around for well over a year and has not been fixed but hey, remember Publish 18:


Creature Handler:



  • Pets in groups now get their own special "pet" role icon

Man, I am really glad they did fix that! And I really feel like such an idiot because I never even noticed that game breaking bug about the icon ... well, that it was even broke!


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sithdarksabre
Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:27 pm
#9

OK the first is a bug where yit has been a looooong time since this happened to me and I can never duplicate the exact scenario. Basically the bug creates a "ghost" of the pet. The "ghost" pet will not follow commands and does no actual damage but it will still follow the CH around and will still have the ! icon when commands are given. The second is a semi known bug and is considered an exploit. A CH can call multiple pets, however if one of the pets they call is still a baby, i.e. growing, it for some reason does not register as its proper level and thus can be called with more pets to create a higher level. It was stated a while back if I remember that it is an exploit and that it would be fixed. Don't know if its true or not but I used to do it a lot preCU to get higher missions. My personal record for pet level was 90 with 2 graul maulers and a rancor all not quite full grown.



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Hardley
Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:56 pm
#10

I think there should be a "statue of limitation" on these things. If the developers ignore a KNOWN "exploit" for more than a year, the "exploit" can no longer be called an "exploit" but simply becomes part of the normal game play tactics

Message Edited by Hardley on 07-18-2005 04:39 PM



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kup
Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:26 pm
#11

The way to do it is to try store the mount from the taskbar, and then call the pets you want. Only thing is, the mount can't group and formation commands make it vanish!


I had 2 CL65 Varactyls out like this!



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theorb22
Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:58 pm
#12






kup wrote:

The way to do it is to try store the mount from the taskbar, and then call the pets you want. Only thing is, the mount can't group and formation commands make it vanish!


I had 2 CL65 Varactyls out like this!






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Traie
Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:26 pm
#13






Hardley wrote:

I think there should be a "statue of limitation" on these things. If the developers ignore a KNOWN "exploit" for more than a year, the "exploit" can no longer be called an "exploit" but simply becomes part of the normal game play tactics






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