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Thread: State Of the profession 8/25/04

taloncard
Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:44 pm
#1

(new items since May in Green )
(new items since June in Yellow)








Greetings fellow CH's (and even you damed Hologrinders)

I though I would put a little thread up seeing where we are and please add on cause these are just my experiences.

First and foremost bugs:










  • Autostore is still at the top of our unsloved bug issues although now with the droid invasion and vehicles autostoreing we may finally gett some attention to it.




  • It seems all the patch 6 bug fixes were in part undone with patch 8. Pets are back to invadeing our personal space, Issues with pets running in combat (to get to that ideal attack range) I have also noticed Pets have difficulty attacking lairs. they slowly crawl up to it expecting it to charge them or something. And this is still an issue with patch 9 And this is still an issue




  • Mounts sometimes they follow sometimes not.




  • Warping pets, one min they are there fighitng alongside you the next 100M in the air, seems the devs forgot why they eliminated this bug and reintraduced it as a AI fix.




  • Posion and disease special attacks seem to still not be working On command. (yes they randomly use their specials) As well as other specials back to not working well

  • /tellpet still not working reliably

  • Extremely delayed healing, you can hit your pet with a stim or have them do a trick and nothing happens
  • NEW BUG: Pets (of all types) when following you into a building seem to go "under the building" instead of entering it. Been reproduced by myself with Droids and pets on mutiple servers now. Not that big of a deal for CH but for entertainers who use their pets in their acts or the entertainer droids, it renders that ability useless. Still seeing this bug.

  • NEW GRIEF: The /summon command. The devs are aware of this and have placed it in some priority after patch 10 (low priority probably)






Bug Fixes:












  • I can proudly report my cu-pa no longer fidgets (then again I never saw it fidget in the first place) but others have reported this






Economy:









  • We are still reliant on BE's for most in demand Non-ch pets and most non-ch's are unwilling to pay much for the "service" of mounting a pet or training one.




  • Almost 0 demand for natural pets, and only a slightly larger one for BE'ed pets. My guess is MD buffs replaced the pet as a tanking power, this will probably be addressed in the combat revamp.


  • 2 most popular mounts (relative term here) Cu-Pa and Bantha have no Non-CH natural tame, we are 100% reliant on BE's to provide these pets.

  • Finding a BE to make pets is getting harder and harder because of the lack of demand.

  • Players are now actively looking for pets however this is not indicitive of an increased demand but a dwindling supply. IOW CH's are decreaseing in #






PvE:












  • Because both our pets and Creatures were equally reduced in quality (read nerffed) there is not much of a problem here, just the bug issues.






PvP:












  • Working specials allow for CH to be of some use in PvP however once again a master Elite can take down our pets in 3 specials or less, again to be addressed in the combat reveamp




  • Our promised no Vit loss finally went live, however it seems that it, like many other "gifts" we have gotten does not work reliably. Publish 10 once again promises to fix this





Mounts:












  • No new mounts in the forseable future and now true benefits seem to be on the list to be added to mounts.




  • Given that dorids have been given many more uses other than storage I do not think it unfair that mounts be given storage ability via a saddlebag that has to be created by another profession (artisan maybe) to make these diserable again. Vert can you look into this?






Rares:












  • Still unknown is the spawn rate of some of these rares, Bull rancor seems to be the easiest to obtain and I use easy as a relative term. Easy compared to finding the Holy Grail, or Arc of the Covenant.

  • It has basically been confirmed that there are over 100x more jedi than confirmed Rare baby sightings possibly more (jedi that is) More than Proven true by patch 9.


Community ideas


The CH community has come up with many excellent Ideas that go ignored. This is nothing new but given that the CR has once again been pushed back the profession is in dire straights and in desperate need of morale boosting. We have been nerfed since November throw us (and our pets) a bone for crying out loud.













This ends my limited knowledge of the profession, again I ask all others to place there knowledge on this thread.











I will be updateing this post as people add more issues to make it easy for Vert to send to the devs or a dev to read (/ROFL like they read this forum)







ANd yes this is esentially a cut and paste from the state of the profession 5/14/04.






Severan T'iam (Valcyn) RIP 7/2/2003-5/8/2005.
Master Nerf herder (oops I mean CH oops CH is gone but never forgotten)
SWG: Quote: Grand moff Tarkin: The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. you my friend are all thats left of their religon. Except for the other 5000 over there...


Pluto9Moon
Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:49 pm
#2

Talon, if only SOE could update as well as you they might begin to understand the problems.



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TivoTenook
Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:18 pm
#3

267 days til Episode III


maybe by then i will have my very own "a mire marauder (baby)"



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Gawzeera
Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:03 am
#4

a bug that i have noticed lately, well not sureif its a bug or what but it is highly annoying.


when my pet gets incapped in combat i cant recover it.

on the radial menu i have an option for "incap recovery" but this does nothing and even after healing my pet it still just lies on the ground as if incapped. this has happened on all planets and has happened with my ronto and bantha. I friend of mine who is a non ch with BE CL10 dewback mount had this same problem.





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Gyorgy
Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:05 am
#5


Sounds like a new "bugfix", Gawzeera. I'm pretty sure i could revive my pet by using a stim on it before Publish 9. But my bet is that this has something to do with the attempt to fix that vitality loss problem in PvP.


Sometimes i really wonder how the good old software testing at SOE works. Apperently not very well. :/

Message Edited by Gyorgy on 08-25-2004 03:06 AM




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TsiyaAma
Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:46 am
#6






TivoTenook wrote:

267 days til Episode III


maybe by then i will have my very own "a mire marauder (baby)"






AMEN! I want this even more than a GPS...biiiiig black kitty...



Tsiya Ama-Valcyn
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Jakkarus
Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:24 am
#7






TivoTenook wrote:

267 days til Episode III




And the Lucasfilm people just signed the NDA's on Episodes 7, 8, and 9





Jakkarus Nightstalker
Proud Elder Creature Handler & Elder Jedi
Former BEAST Guildmaster of Starsider
Pluto9Moon
Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:31 am
#8

I want to play Anakin for the honeymoon scene.



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taloncard
Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:58 am
#9

Me Too pluto

But I have a chance of meeting her, Her father's office is only 10 mi from me




Severan T'iam (Valcyn) RIP 7/2/2003-5/8/2005.
Master Nerf herder (oops I mean CH oops CH is gone but never forgotten)
SWG: Quote: Grand moff Tarkin: The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. you my friend are all thats left of their religon. Except for the other 5000 over there...


MrHawat
Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:00 am
#10

when my pet gets incapped in combat i cant recover it.


I have been seeing this too. I noticed it after the last mini release. It appears to be mount related and is not a lag issue. I was using a mounted Kaadu and it would never revive from incapp no matter what I tried or how long I waited. I tried the radial, stims, and pet stims none of it revived the pet. I store it and recall it and can see the stims healed it. I switched to a Canoid Hunter, which is not a mount, and never had the problem with it. Everything else was the same. What I was hunting, where I was hunting, and lag. No problem with the non-mount.
Pluto9Moon
Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:04 am
#11

talon,


I love you. Can you go there and put in a good word for me:


In the red and white corner, weighing in at 145 lbs, nothing but twisted steel and sex appeal, all women want him and all men want to be like him, often imitated but never duplicated....PLUTO THE POLISH TERROR!!!!.



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Neowind
Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:06 am
#12

Awsome writeup. This is just amazing. Good work.



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Lorelai_Seabreeze
Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:03 pm
#13

1 Word sums up the state of the profession.



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