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Thread: No trust left.

Bridgebuilder
Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:56 am
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When i started playing the game i was under the influence that i as player took control of the progress of my character for good and bad in the game, and as long i followed the rules and regulations set by the company that provided the game they would not directly alter my progress.


Well the current changes have proven that wrong, Where i use to be able to be a pilot of one faction and a neutral on the ground, the devs have changed the rules and regulations for that during time. So in effect they have directly made alterations to my character sheet, even i didnt do anything wrong.


When this happens once, im worried about the upcomming CURB changes, from what is demonstrated to my with pilots now, i would asume that every combat profession in the game today is regarded invalid and that people would have to start over fromt he very bottom to get the new changed skills that CURB will bring forward.


So i have a question to the develoupers, since you have proven once that your willing to makes changes that directly effect the character sheet of a character that have done nothing wrong and have been played regarding to the set rules and regulations, why should we trust promisses that will come for the future. Why should we not have to fear that one time down the path, you will take a random number of player characters and alter them to a different faction as you see fit, when you decide that its nessesary to do so to ensure servers are balanced by characters on either side of the gcw conflict.


To me trust is important, I need to belive that i in some way control the destiny and path of my character, that i will not be dictated in to playing what fit the manuscript better and that i have to accept to play the role assigned to me in the game as the develoupers see fit.


When i played the game as rebel pilot and neutral ont eh ground i did so regarding to the rules, I did not violate any regulations. Now im told I have to be a rebel on ground as well if i want to keep my pilot skills, there is no option to make a change to fit my wishes to the new rules put in front of me. that makes me belive that if i accept the fact that i have to continue as rebel on the ground now, that i should also accept the fact when the develoupers want to change me from Rebel to imperial on the ground because it will serve balance on the server better, and once again tell me that i have to drop my rebel pilot skills because i can not be rebel pilot and imperial on ground.


Why should we trust the game to allow us to have control over our own characters as long we play by the rules and regulations when we are presented with this change, without so much as a offer to change to adjust to the new rules?


I installed jtl, what i was told when i installed jtl have proven to be a lie. I dont condem the change. That in basic might be a good one, that will imppove the game experience overall. But when you decide to make changes that affect our wishes and plans for the character directly, its done without concern for the player or offers of compensation for what is been ripped away from them.


Both my Accounts are canceled now, i hit the button today. For me to continue playing a game i love together with people i have learned to care for, my trust in the company that provides it have to be reinstalled first. And right now i have no trust in soe, i think they will do as they seam fit when they see it nessesary to do whatever changes the game need to make people fit in to the role designed for them in the game. The character is not ours as players, we just borrow them to play with, and we as players have to accept it when changes on them are made, even if that means we have to play a totally different game style with them in the future.
GarVa
Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:25 am
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You have never been able to be a Rebel Pilot and an Imperial in the ground game, or vice versa... Likewise when you were a rebel pilot you were technically rebel on the ground, and others would see you as such. The only difference is now, if you are on the ground as a rebel pilot and you have contraban,there is aslight risknpc's may attack you (PC's still cannot).





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Bridgebuilder

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:33 am Post subject:






GarVa wrote:


You have never been able to be a Rebel Pilot and an Imperial in the ground game, or vice versa... Likewise when you were a rebel pilot you were technically rebel on the ground, and others would see you as such. The only difference is now, if you are on the ground as a rebel pilot and you have contraban,there is aslight risknpc's may attack you (PC's still cannot).





Then why are i not Rebel Colonel with 50k+ faction points now then, that what i surrendered to become neutral.


Before my sheet told me i was Neutral on ground, now i tell me i am rebel.


I dont disagree with the reason of the changes Garva, the changes makes sense and will make the game better. But still I feel that new laws where written and i was convicted by the new laws fro actions i did before they where written.


before i could be rebel pilot and neutral on ground, even the jtl advertsiement told me that, now i can not so things changed. and im forced to the rebellion because i have the ability to fly.


I guess i missed the call of Martial law comming to effect.





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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:13 pm Post subject:

I'm sorry I really am not understanding the problem, so you may want to go to the gcw forum and mention your point to the GCW correspondent for review (this topic is beyond the scope of this forum).





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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:25 am Post subject:

This have nothing to do with gcw. Its about soe have made alterations on my character and changed it from being a neutral to rebel. yes you can hide it behind the "you where a rebel pilot, and that it was never intended that a neutral should be able to learn rebel pilot skills or imperial" but the fact is that they where able to do just that. And the guidelines said you could.


When i installed jtl the options where, you could as rebel become Rebel or neutral pilot but not imperial. You could as neutral become either Rebel pilot neutral pilot or imperial pilot. You could as Imperial become either imperial or neutral pilot but not Rebel pilot.

That where the options presented in front of you when you for the very first time met the game after installing the jump to lightspeed expansion.

Now this have changed, not only changed but everyone that acted on the previous setting have been lured in to either faction and away from neutral. Now we are told no you can not be rebel or imperial pilot as neutral anymore. and people that never saw a recruiter never had tanything but neutral listed on the CTRL + C sheet suddenly have joined the faction. even that it once actually several times where stated that the Jtl would not influence the ground game in any way.


yet now it does, in fact it does that very much, and i am offered no other options in trade for the time and effort i put in to jtl but to throw it away if i want to keep my neutral status within the game.

Im no longer neutral because i fell to the trick with jtl when i was offered as neutral to be able to fly in space with the side i wanted without that inflence my ground based game as promissed.


or to better quote it "Space quest trainers will only train like faction or neutral players" While im starting to think that was a error when typed and what i really was supposed to be was "Space quest trainers will only train same factions except neutral will train all"


I know its the companys right to make alterations to the game as they see fit, i guess i just didnt like the fact they where directly in and tampered with my character and made my choices for me without me having anything to say about it that made me lose the trust in them, who knows maybe in a month or two they decide that smuggler isa rebel profession and make them all join the rebellion.


I didn't like it thats why i canceled. Since this is the community relations board i thought i tell why. the gcw correspondant im sure have other things to work with then to care why paying customers left the game.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject:

Also, somewhere on the box that you purchased it says "Gameplay may change with out warning" or something to that effect.



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