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Thread: John Smedley's Letter to the Community: April 7th, 2005

Wholfe
Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:44 pm
#66






Tiggs wrote:



The following letter from our president, John Smedley, has been posted:


Hello Everyone,



In Austin, our Star Wars Galaxies™ team is focused on a big change to the game's combat system. The "Combat Upgrade" is now live on the SWG test server, and it's getting very positive feedback from the SWG playerbase. The team is also putting the finishing touches on Star Wars Galaxies™: Episode III Rage of the Wookies™, which launches in less than a month. The SWG playerbase is very strong, and we're continuing to put a lot of effort into making Star Wars Galaxies™ even better and adding new content all the time. The latest expansion pack adds Episode III content into the universe -- something our SWG players were asking for!


Thanks,


John Smedley




Message Edited by Tiggs on 04-08-2005 06:31 PM




Deleted irrelevant areas...



So even though over HALF of the community that's voting do NOT like the game, it's a positive feedback? How is this so? Or is someone lieing to him?





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pneumonic81
Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:45 pm
#67






D8alus wrote:





pneumonic81 wrote:





NemsisJedi wrote:





pneumonic81 wrote:





NemsisJedi wrote:






pneumonic81 wrote:





NemsisJedi wrote:

This makes me think like they realy want to get rid of Veterans at all. Newbies will be ok with new system as they not get used to old still.

But loosing 50% peoples heh *cough* CU simply turn game in EQ'ish game. Thats not SWG anymore, fast phased combat is myth, Dynamics gone down by 100%. Just make it 3d action then? Why not

Episode 3 hmm. Never have seen anyone asked for it, nor as Full scale expansion.

CU will "RIP" SwG. I am not whining here, do DEV's actualy see what peoples tell, ot the yacting like Bull which see Red flag? > > > > > *BAM*






have u even played eq. some fruit one day penned the phrase that CU is like wow and eq, and like lemmings you all bought into it. typical.





Yes i played it. And i hate it. I like The wayproffesion going to work Certs and such, but combat "Q" removal and This new combat System making me sad.

Message Edited by NemsisJedi on 04-09-2005 04:31 AM





so how much of cu have u played. im lvl 18 right now and i cant go back to the busted live game. its a mess. cu even its its buggy state is far superior. i knwo exactly what i can fight, and exactly how to level. no guess work. if i die its because ti was my fault. not because i didnt understand a list of 45 numbers that make no sense. i have played since day 1 and i stand by the claim that cu will be the cure for this dying game.





You think i am telling it out of nothing - do you? I am not making statments before i tryed thing i am writing about. Lvl 22






considering how much u seem to hate it, how did u manage to get to lvl 22 then... how could u stand it??


btw i destroyed my first character a couple days in to make an ithorian





Enough with the pissing contest, you like it, we don't. Yay for everyone involved...this is getting nowhere. If you feel the need to discuss it further, use PM's or IM's.








wy, u can state how much u dislike it, i feel the need to state how much i do like it. the problem is im one of the few vocal peopel who will defend it. most people who like it dont bother posting, usually just the complainers post. i just want to make sure that when people read this thread they dont see only complaints.


yea some of the things in that letter were quite amusing, but even tho the live forums seem to dislike cu, i again state that opinion should be taken with a grain of salt. the cu forums will be much more on target for real opinions, ill bet thats what mr. smedly was looking at.

KrYpToFoX
Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:46 pm
#68

Hmmm....




Why is it that I heard the first few notes of the Imperial March as soon as I opened this thread?






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Vaypah
Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:48 pm
#69

I would bet good money that no Dev would reply to this and actually agree with the community on the fact that what Mr John "I cant believe its not EQ" Smedley's post is just so false. I say this in regards to the bit about the "posotive feedback" on the CU, thats just marketing propoganda imo.



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silversaber
Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:49 pm
#70






pneumonic81 wrote:



wy, u can state how much u dislike it, i feel the need to state how much i do like it. the problem is im one of the few vocal peopel who will defend it. most people who like it dont bother posting, usually just the complainers post. i just want to make sure that when people read this thread they dont see only complaints.


yea some of the things in that letter were quite amusing, but even tho the live forums seem to dislike cu, i again state that opinion should be taken with a grain of salt. the cu forums will be much more on target for real opinions, ill bet thats what mr. smedly was looking at.






Take a look at the poll in the In testing-Dev forum.


Over 50%+ would NOT recomend this game to thier friends.


Yea, alot of peeps really do like the CU..NOT!


Sehera
Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:54 pm
#71

Daniel "NooDood" Wilhite - SWG Quality Assurance Manager


Wheres he???


... just wondering.... hes pretty much needed, for both, CU and offical statements



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NemsisJedi
Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:57 pm
#72






Insidius wrote:





silversaber wrote:





pneumonic81 wrote:



wy, u can state how much u dislike it, i feel the need to state how much i do like it. the problem is im one of the few vocal peopel who will defend it. most people who like it dont bother posting, usually just the complainers post. i just want to make sure that when people read this thread they dont see only complaints.


yea some of the things in that letter were quite amusing, but even tho the live forums seem to dislike cu, i again state that opinion should be taken with a grain of salt. the cu forums will be much more on target for real opinions, ill bet thats what mr. smedly was looking at.






Take a look at the poll in the In testing-Dev forum.


Over 50%+ would NOT recomend this game to thier friends.


Yea, alot of peeps really do like the CU..NOT!









For what it's worth, the forum polls have never reflected the views of the gaming community as a whole; only the views of the forum-goers. Only a small percent of the game-playing community even uses the forums.

Frankly, the poll arguement doesn't hold much water, I'm sorry to say.

*hears the sound of hundreds of little bubbles *pop* bursting in unison*





You know i communicate in game with peoples which don't read forums. They say, what they will quit right after CU. Many, many of peoples and their friends too. This is not what i am trying to whine here, or anything like this. That is a 100% true about what is going on.








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Stakex007
Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:59 pm
#73

SOE needs to get off their damn EQ horse and leave SWG the heck alone! This post shows most SOE concern is for the EQ games... and apparently they want to make Galaxies into their 3rd EQ. These moves in the last couple months by SOE is going to lead to the downfall of this game.... which is a very sad thing. This game had such an individual and special feel to it... playing TC right now that feel is GONE... if I wanted an EQ feeling game I would have bought EQ. I mean hell why dont you give us dragons and spell books, and mages and fairys and elfs... why stop there change the name of the gmae to Star Quest Galaxies.

Then after all that to say you guys are getting possitive feedback from the community?? And you say your PR and Community Relations has gotten better? Thats a joke. No one likes the CU, but again its gonna be rushed to live because it has a schedual and there is no time to go back and rebuild it from scratch which is whats needed. This is what happens when you build the whole damn thing ith limited or no community feedback, and change things that were perfectly fine. Try acctually listening to the players instead of lying to the media and the masses saying things are looking good. Galaxies is a sinking ship right now being drug down by this long awaited Combat upgrade thats a total disaster (Yea I know its beta but the basic design sucks, and there has been no respone so feedback) and is going to be the end of this game.
silversaber
Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:01 pm
#74






Insidius wrote:





silversaber wrote:





pneumonic81 wrote:



wy, u can state how much u dislike it, i feel the need to state how much i do like it. the problem is im one of the few vocal peopel who will defend it. most people who like it dont bother posting, usually just the complainers post. i just want to make sure that when people read this thread they dont see only complaints.


yea some of the things in that letter were quite amusing, but even tho the live forums seem to dislike cu, i again state that opinion should be taken with a grain of salt. the cu forums will be much more on target for real opinions, ill bet thats what mr. smedly was looking at.






Take a look at the poll in the In testing-Dev forum.


Over 50%+ would NOT recomend this game to thier friends.


Yea, alot of peeps really do like the CU..NOT!









For what it's worth, the forum polls have never reflected the views of the gaming community as a whole; only the views of the forum-goers. Only a small percent of the game-playing community even uses the forums.

Frankly, the poll arguement doesn't hold much water, I'm sorry to say.

*hears the sound of hundreds of little bubbles *pop* bursting in unison*




Then why do they bother totake the polls?


People only listen to what they want to hear. If a poll agrees with your opinion, then its valid. If it goes against your opinion, it doenst matter and isnt valid.


I say that more peeps read these forums than you think, if only to lurk and not post.


And I will say that at least 90% of the CU testers read and post on these forums. Thus I take from that poll that at least 50% of those that test the CU would not recomend this game to thier friends.


That tells me alot.




NemsisJedi
Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:02 pm
#75






Sehera wrote:





LordScotticus wrote:

Discouraging doesn't begin to describe it. I feel insulted as a player that the company running my game thinks I'm so stupid as to not see right through this an obvious attempt to smooth things over. I feel a firm pressing sensation from behind...





hey, its not your game... everything remains property of SOE

theyll be happy with all that mastered everything toons and Master Jedi Knights they can hand over to their employees after they quitted






Indeed even this forum is Property of SOE - one of my posts just got poofed _-_ Garva








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Vagrantprodigy
Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:04 pm
#76



pneumonic81 wrote:


dmahan01 wrote:
our question is why does he say that stuff if its not true
"In Austin, our Star Wars Galaxies™ team is focused on a big change to the game's combat system. The "Combat Upgrade" is now live on the SWG test server, and it's getting very positive feedback from the SWG playerbase."
shouldnt this be "In Austin, our Star Wars Galaxies™ team is focused on a big change to the game's combat system. The "Combat Upgrade" is now live on the SWG test server, and it's getting very negitive feedback from the SWG playerbase."
anyway im not to bash the cu cause i love it, but most dont.... look at the polls

Message Edited by dmahan01 on 04-08-2005 05:36 PM

Message Edited by dmahan01 on 04-08-2005 05:37 PM



Actually not only have i found CU to be pretty much superior in every way to our live game, I have found that opinion prevelant from most everyone who plays it. the problem i see in these forums is uninformed people commenting on something they want no part of regardless of its worth. I'll bet u havent even played the test server, becuase the frog isnt activated and you wont PLAY thru the combat upgrade test to form your opinion. In fact i'll suspect that you and people like you are either a) scared to death of any change b) afraid that everyone will be on even ground, and your uber armor, guns, swords and buffs wont let you solo every peice of content in the game.

My advise for SOE: Look at the polls from the live forums, but take the results with a grain of salt. people dont like change, as is show throughout anything involveing people. instead look to the private combat upgrade forum polls. these people are the cream of the crop and chosen for their ability to discern real balance, instead of concentrating on thier own ability to exploit the system.





I have played it quite a bit, and they went overboard, and simply turned it into an EQ2 clone. It needed fixing, but not complete replacement. I grow more and more frightened that SOE has ruined the game I love(d) to the point of me having to leave permanently.



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vonbrALT
Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:04 pm
#77






pneumonic81 wrote:

gawd i hate these forums, never seen such a bunch of whiners in my life. CU is probably the best thing to happen to this game. its so frustrating to see something like cu that has a real chance to revive this game torn down by the likes of this "community"


i could cry reading this crap. i comeback for one day and instantly remeber why i never come here.






awww... dont cry



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Insidius
Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:04 pm
#78



silversaber wrote:


Insidius wrote:


silversaber wrote:


pneumonic81 wrote:

wy, u can state how much u dislike it, i feel the need to state how much i do like it. the problem is im one of the few vocal peopel who will defend it. most people who like it dont bother posting, usually just the complainers post. i just want to make sure that when people read this thread they dont see only complaints.

yea some of the things in that letter were quite amusing, but even tho the live forums seem to dislike cu, i again state that opinion should be taken with a grain of salt. the cu forums will be much more on target for real opinions, ill bet thats what mr. smedly was looking at.



Take a look at the poll in the In testing-Dev forum.

Over 50%+ would NOT recomend this game to thier friends.

Yea, alot of peeps really do like the CU..NOT!






For what it's worth, the forum polls have never reflected the views of the gaming community as a whole; only the views of the forum-goers. Only a small percent of the game-playing community even uses the forums.

Frankly, the poll arguement doesn't hold much water, I'm sorry to say.

*hears the sound of hundreds of little bubbles *pop* bursting in unison*

Then why do they bother totake the polls?

People only listen to what they want to hear. If a poll agrees with your opinion, then its valid. If it goes against your opinion, it doenst matter and isnt valid.

I say that more peeps read these forums than you think, if only to lurk and not post.

And I will say that at least 90% of the CU testers read and post on these forums. Thus I take from that poll that at least 50% of those that test the CU would not recomend this game to thier friends.

That tells me alot.







I think you should read the second sentence of your post again.
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