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Thread: So You Fired Tiggs?

rickon_stark
Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:21 pm
#365

not really. she did her job as a mouthpiece very well. she lied to us and decieved us, but that was her job. fair play to her, at least she did it with style. good luck to her in her next job. i'd suggest defence attourney.



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TheSatyr01
Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:21 pm
#366

Tiggs,


Though regretfully I never got to know you,you will be sorely missed. You handled your job as CR far better than I did when I had that kind of job and far better than these boards deserved. Take care,and may the winds always be at your back.


Your humor,and style made the forums a much better place. Just won't be the same without the Pouncing Tigger of Doom.



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DocSavag
Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:22 pm
#367



SWGHottie wrote:


DocSavag wrote:


Flagoo wrote:

Word of advice about PR Brenlo,

NEVER state that you fireda singlefemale with kids.

Business is business, I reckon. Nobody wants ta do business with a monster though, no matter how good the deal is. That's what ya just became ta many of the folk here. There were folk who actually liked the NGE who quit over this. If ya'll can toss a single female with kids outta Austin man, then that shows to many thatya'll are cold hearted bastages.

At that point manyou can make the best product in the world and give the customer 100 character slots. It won't matter. Even if its the perfect deal for the public, ain't nobody wanna deal with a snake.

Instead of sayin' "I'm happy ta subscribe ta a great game," now they are sayin', "This sucks man. Its the best game evah, and its too bad I ain't gonna play it on account of the slime in Austin who toss out women and children."

Its this sorta stuff that reminds us all that there are more important things then sendin' ya money ta forgettabout the real world. You just reminded everyone here that there are priciples at stake. Humanity (or Rodity in my case ) be at stake. Ya can't sellnobody games when they see that ya'll ain't not only real, but real bad.

Peer pressure has just worked against ya. Peeps who support ya are gonna be seen as mosters alongside ya. "How can youplay thatNGE whenSOE fire women with kids?" Playin' this game has now become a moral crime ta some. You can't generate hype with that, Brenlo. Don't matter who you are.

The mythic aura of reverence is gone from the red names. We don't see ya as gods no more, but men, I reckon, and bad men at that.

Never state that ya fired a single woman with kids unless ya'll are goin' bankrupt. Cause if ya ain't goin' bankrupt man, then ya'll look like you be morally bankrupt. At that point man, ya lost yer ability ta sell ta human beings (or rodians too ).


Just wanted to let you guys know that Tiggs asked me to tell you that she is reading the forums and is touched by the support from the community.

Dude, wake up and smell the coffee.

Tell Tiggs that she may be a great human being... I'm sure she is, and a great mother too, but customer relations sure ain't her line of work... She probably has a bright future in gaming, but she certainly was not in the right position here. This is all for the best, for you, SOE and the rest of us. Best of luck, but life goes on.

Message Edited by SWGHottie on 11-09-2005 09:13 PM






Look I don't know what your issue is and I frankly don't give a **edit** I passed on a message thanking the community for support..thats it. Troll somewhere else.



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rickon_stark
Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:24 pm
#368

as a tiggs hata and a tiggs lova at the same time (and therefore bizarrely a kinda tiggs neutral)... go flagoo. by far the best post.



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Taitin
Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:39 pm
#369

while i've never been a fan of tiggs, she was informative, even if at time her information was incorrect, at least she did try.


never would have figured tiggs to be one of those leaving in the wake of the SWG for morons patch though.


*shakes head* nothing can save this game now, soon it will be just a charred corpse.


btw Julio.


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think on that.



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TheSatyr01
Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:44 pm
#370

How many times does this have to be explained to people?I didthe CR thingfor a year or so myself. AndI know for a fact that the higher ups often pulled crap behind the devs back...the devs would cry on our shoulders alot once they found out. (We were under NDA,so we could say nothingabout it to the general public,besides...if we leaked information it could have cost a devs job for telling us in the first place.)


Let's go through this one more time. A)She could only tell you what she has been cleared to tell you. B)She was in no position to know if it was lies or the truth...she was onlya community rep. As far as she would have known they were telling her the truth. You honestly think the suits would tell the devs and the CRs what their future plans were?C)She was under NDA...which means if she said anything she wasn't cleared to say then she risked a lawsuit.


If you think she lied to you or gave you disinformation it's because her bosses lied to her and gave her disinformation.


And for those who reply "then why didn't she quit?". She is a single mom with kids...at least at SOE she had a job...if she had quit then she would have been screwed. It is hard as hell for a single woman with kids to get any kind of work these days.(I know...an ex-gf of mine with a college degree is stuck answering phones at a law firm...even though she is a RN. Her being single(divorced) with 3 kids scares employers off).




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Midwestsurfer
Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:16 pm
#371

If you kick a player base in the nuts all you will do is neuter them...


And then they stop having little baby players and just sing high notes in the choir.


Personally I liked Tiggs, and I believe that she only told us what she was told. I don't believe most of the devs are involved in any real evil doings...


Kinda like how you don't blame the clone troopers for killing the jedi, you blame Old Melt-Face.


I guess what I'm trying to say is...


TheSatyr01 is probably right.


And goodbye Tiggs. I'm not the only one who will miss you, nor am I the only one who hopes for the best for you.



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Hullukarhu
Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:50 pm
#372

good bye Tiggs, may the force be with you



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Gen00b
Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:58 pm
#373

Why!!!!!

Tiggs, you were a great at community relations.
I wish you a good life and much prosperity.
EnSab
Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:03 am
#374


If she was Fired, I am utterly Disgusted with there decision. Tiggs did put her Heart and Soul into the SWG Community. She was the most cheerful Dev around. Even when you knew she would have to be dealing with so many whines, flames, rants, immature bicckering day after day, she would Still Complete the job in a Constructive Professional Fun Way. And how is she repaid ? Well....she's gone and that's all we need to know.


Those of you that flame, rant, whine, I hope you consider who your friends are in real life. Maybe you should be more respectful to them, and take the time to be thankful for there support. That is what Tiggs did for this Community, even though so many would doubt her, and flame the hell out of her, she would not bend out of shape.


I have read the Dev tracker just about everday since I can remember, and there is not One Post that I can recall with a Post from Tiggs that would display the form of hate that was so common from others flameing her. She always kept her cool, strong in mind and spirit, and yet elegant. She would make you smile or laugh if you looked closely. Her fourm games, so simple, yet so Creative and fun. Now those will never be the same. There is so much more I could say, but I shall not.


Up to this Point, I have been Neutral with the NGE, I am a very open minded person. I want to give it some time, and see if I can adapt to it like I did with the CU. But part of that Belief was from Tiggs, she was the back bone here, she was a reason to Believe in the futre of SWG. Now she is gone, that belief is lost. I now Consider my accounts expired when reneweal happens next year, I have lost my Faith in SWG.


I salute you Miss Tiggs. You will be dearly missed. If you plan on staying with SWG, I hope you will at least be able to post on your normal account

Owen-Lars
Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:03 am
#375


This is in no way directed at the mods, as i know they have nothing to do with this. Im giving critisism in regards to community relations.







Great work guys, i must say. I honestly, didnt think that things could get any worse then you go and fire one of the only trulygreat people on your books that genuinly andvocally believed in the game and what it couldachieve.


2 and a half years and still SOE continues tomake mistake after mistake, i would honestly think you guys would learn but obviously i was wrong. Consider my account cancelled, ill be waiting for the timer to run out.


Owen



If anyone has any kind words to send to tiggs then be sure to drop them in this thread.





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jmonty
Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:10 am
#376


why did they fire tiggs?

Message Edited by jmonty on 11-09-2005 11:12 PM




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erebus_irelphir
Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:13 am
#377

Hey tiggs your awesome and your since of humor rocks Dev tracker keeps me laughing. *hug tiggs*

Wooo you being for real about that man?

Message Edited by erebus_irelphir on 11-09-2005 12:14 PM



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