Community Relations Archive
Thread: John Smedley's Letter to the Community: April 7th, 2005
silversaber
Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:46 pm
#222
LordScotticus wrote:
RedDestinyCC wrote:
Stay on target.
Agreed.
So, the topic at hand:
1. Of players expressing their opinions, the far and away majority are saying that they don't like the CU.
2. Despite the expression of this opinion, SOE brass is saying it's getting very positive feedback. There's an obvious discrepancy here -- this thread alone provides plenty of example of how the community's opinion is widely anti-CU. What we don't have from Mr. Smedley is any indication as to the source of *his* claim.
3. Since this thread has opened, players expressing opinions strongly against Mr. Smedley's apparently intentional ploy to mislead the community have been deleted without explanation. I myself have had three posts deleted because someone on SOE payroll doesn't like what's being said here, with many other posters reporting the same.
So in summary, the situation as it currently sits is that we have plenty of evidence to the contrary of Mr. Smedley's assertion of "positive feedback," while neither he nor his staff is providing the basis of this claim in the first place. That sort of behavior and disrespect of the customer gives the feeling of being a sort of psychological trick to generate hype -- it's as though they're trying to generate "positive feedback" by reporting that there already is plenty, which, thus far, seems to be false.
I'm eager to read whatever datasources were used to substantiate this claim. If it can be justified, I think we'll all be very surprised. If it cannot, then SOE brass are liars by definition: intentional reporters of mistruth.
We challenge them to proove what they say, they answer in silence and censorship. Why?
Agreed.
Nice Siggy BTW 
YoullNeverKnowWhoIAM
Wed Apr 13, 2005 12:14 am
#223
I don't know for sure, but it was posted previously here and all the responses were saying that it was an April Fools Joke.
MaleusGaryn wrote:
YoullNeverKnowWhoIAM wrote:
Sorry, that was an official April Fools Joke of Allakhazam. So don't cancel, fight.
Can you prove to me that the letter from Allakhazam is a joke? I really need to know the truth here. I've already cancelled my subscriptions and posted on my guilds forums. Some of the others will be following suit so I need proof that the "merger" isn't real.
But it sounds like a joke to me too. Think about it, it would be awesome, but the CU changes are not to "pave the steps" for this. And Smedley (/forcechoke smedley 
) did not say anything about it in the letter,but he said it to the press? BS. 
Message Edited by YoullNeverKnowWhoIAM on 04-12-2005 09:15 PM
hirosue
Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:29 am
#224
This so called combat upgrade is already causing players to leave the game . Only today i received a guild mail from one of our crafters who like many crafters is very disapointed that all the hard work hes put into getting quality resources and his 12 point suit is to be wasted . So we have a dumbed down combat sysytem and a crafting sysytem that doesnt reward long standing expert crafters .
cannt think of any positive feedback for this myself . sounds like the guy from sony is just being told nice things from his underlings who need to justify their salaries . if he botherd to take a look at the foums himself he would see that we are all worried about these changes and a lot of players on test center hate the new system .
LevaOripa
Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:31 am
#225
The "Combat Upgrade" is now live on the SWG test server, and it's getting very positive feedback from the SWG playerbase." -John Smedley, President of SOE
This guy is clueless
He should stop believing what the YES men are feeding him and get off his BUTT get into the game and see for himself
Its very clear he doesnt play the game read his own polls or forumand relies on so called facts from his lackeys who are telling him just what he wants to hear....
Ive saw movies like this
LOL
This is a clear case of how NOT to run a buisness
NewEco
Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:15 pm
#226
the nicest thing about that crazy statement is that everybody can makeup ones own mind. Just have a look at the daily vote in the testcenter board. as for now its >450 votes with 71% = 1 - NO FUN AT ALL ........ and thats only for today
Toe-KneeG
Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:40 pm
#228
NewEco wrote:
the nicest thing about that crazy statement is that everybody can makeup ones own mind. Just have a look at the daily vote in the testcenter board. as for now its >450 votes with 71% = 1 - NO FUN AT ALL ........ and thats only for today
Yesterday - 66%
Monday - 61%
DO you see a trend? I posted these results on starsiders forum()and
Virrago replied:
320 out of a few hundred thousand.
The in game exit polls are more accurate.
So I post:
How about giving us the numbers on those polls then.
Virrago:
No Response.
Message Edited by Toe-KneeG on 04-13-2005 03:46 PM
LordScotticus
Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:44 pm
#229
NewEco wrote:
the nicest thing about that crazy statement is that everybody can makeup ones own mind. Just have a look at the daily vote in the testcenter board. as for now its >450 votes with 71% = 1 - NO FUN AT ALL ........ and thats only for today
But like someone said above:
1 > 0, therefore....you guessed it...
"Very Positive Feedback!!"
/wretch
YoullNeverKnowWhoIAM
Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:53 pm
#230
Toe-KneeG wrote:
NewEco wrote:
the nicest thing about that crazy statement is that everybody can makeup ones own mind. Just have a look at the daily vote in the testcenter board. as for now its >450 votes with 71% = 1 - NO FUN AT ALL ........ and thats only for today
Yesterday - 66%
Monday - 61%
DO you see a trend? I posted these results on starsiders forum()and
Virrago replied:
320 out of a few hundred thousand.
The in game exit polls are more accurate.
So I post:
How about giving us the numbers on those polls then.
Virrago:
No Response.
Message Edited by Toe-KneeG on 04-13-2005 03:46 PM
You actually expected a response? ROFLMAO.
fozzie22
Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:00 pm
#231
YoullNeverKnowWhoIAM wrote:
Toe-KneeG wrote:
NewEco wrote:
the nicest thing about that crazy statement is that everybody can makeup ones own mind. Just have a look at the daily vote in the testcenter board. as for now its >450 votes with 71% = 1 - NO FUN AT ALL ........ and thats only for today
Yesterday - 66%
Monday - 61%
DO you see a trend? I posted these results on starsiders forum()and
Virrago replied:
320 out of a few hundred thousand.
The in game exit polls are more accurate.
So I post:
How about giving us the numbers on those polls then.
Virrago:
No Response.
Message Edited by Toe-KneeG on 04-13-2005 03:46 PM
You actually expected a response? ROFLMAO.
LOL
RammiXP10
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:29 am
#233
Crystalis_Jedi wrote:
D8alus wrote:
Are you even READING my responses, or are you just providing standard responses from a checklist??
YES, SOME of the game needed fixing. HOWEVER, they are CHANGING things that have NOTHING to do with the BROKEN aspects of the game, thus BREAKING them.
And spare me that "just quit" line. I will fight as hard as I can for as long as I can to keep this game from being ruined for me and then and only then will I quit. If YOU can't handle criticism, stop reading my posts.
I don't foresee them chaging the games HAM system, buff system, or even weapon system back to the original design. They're pushing a new envelope here, one which goes to eliminate the massive unbalance between powergamers/ubergrinders and casual gamers/new players.
Face it, most of the live games unbalance comes from the HAM system ALONE. Buffs ruined this game. I was there before buffs were around, and I'm GLAD to see them dumbed down again. As for the everything else about the combat system that has changed...I can only guess that this is how everything was supposed to work in the old version. Health was meant to be your "main" source of HP. Action and Mind were secondary to that, and were meant to be primarily for using specials and abilities. The CU makes SENSE. Don't knock it because it's different. Open your mind to something new and give it a thorough examination before you cast it into the fires and call it crap.
Whats new about this system ? Its an old tried and tested system that pretty much every other MMORPG Uses. I hate all the patronising people like you! who think they are for some reason better and more adapt to change than others just because you like the CU. I have played the CU for well over 20 Hours and Its quite simply"OK". It does not try to doanything new and the only things that imo are awelcome changeis the newadded Content i.e Weapons, Armor and NewAbilities. The change in the Look of the game is an absalute joke i feel like im playing a game designed for 8 year olds and the removal of one of the unique elements of thegame the combat que isonce agin IMO a bad thing.Im stuck with it so im keeping anopen minded and trying to take some of the changes with a pinch of salt. However the game never needed the changes that were made it is a different game now and its a shame cause bar a few Re-balance issuesi.e buffs and melee Ownage the current live game would have been fine and most Importanly Unique incomparison to everyother MMORPG.
I suggest you be careful before you write in the future because these changes are nothing new and in a way not a change but making SWG like everything else. So i ask the question who is more tolorant to change me or you? as you seemto like something that we have all seen before!
Message Edited by RammiXP10 on 04-14-2005 03:32 AM
Message Edited by RammiXP10 on 04-14-2005 03:32 AM
NewEco
Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:08 am
#234
NewEco wrote:
the nicest thing about that crazy statement is that everybody can makeup ones own mind. Just have a look at the daily vote in the testcenter board. as for now its >450 votes with 71% = 1 - NO FUN AT ALL ........ and thats only for today
Yesterday - 66%
Monday - 61%
DO you see a trend? I posted these results on starsiders forum()and
Virrago replied:
320 out of a few hundred thousand.
The in game exit polls are more accurate.
So I post:
How about giving us the numbers on those polls then.
Virrago:
No Response.
Message Edited by Toe-KneeG on 04-13-2005 03:46 PM
sure thing, the trend is quite plausible for me. i get more and more frustrated each time i go for TC .......and concering the exit vote, even when i had still faith in CU (the first 2 or 3 sessions on TC) my votes for what i had seen were solid 1s, stating in the text window that the graphics deserves a -10 (on the scale 1 to 5 ... =). At that time i was not angry but voted based on the poor execution of the good concepts i still believed in .... Now after 4 TC sessions i guest i have lost faith, because there is not the slightest change for the better to be seen there .....
do you now what the real tank template in this game is ?? .... being a developer or executive at SOE: Now matter how reasonable the objective is, you can resisit without any harm or change in mind .... LOL