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Thread: IF playerss can stop whining about everything game would be far better
I'm very glad they put in CU because the old system was wrong, I even welcome the new xp system. It should be hard to lvl.
I got 9 boxes in three hours. That's mad. (Pikeman in a jedi spin group on dant)
The problem that I see with the today's quest system is after one person have done it all know exactly how to do it because they post a guide on the forums.
I want the devs to make a random quest.. machine.
Goes something like this:
1. The goals of the quest is checked.
2. then the comp randomly picks a quest type, like destroy, deliver or something like that.
3. Determine the number of steps needed to complete the quest.
4. Spawns NPC/creatures according to the players lvl, is he in a group or not?, race, jet, rotw and then the difficulty of the quest.
5. Put together the quest.
"all" the devs have to do is a db with tons of missions parts that could fit together.
THey can then just tweak the numbers in the quest like the difficulty and the number of steps.
then the players actually have to read the quest, have to pay attention.. not just follow a guide...
That's my two cents..
think it is not excusing the fact that SOE is listening too all complaint and do not make the game get better, I think they should just close there ear and do changement on profession without nerfing them after because someone that play since 1 month cryed he could not kill a full template jedi played since 2 years.
as they seems to do every little wish of players I ask player to just stop whinning every day so they can concentrate in the game rathe rthan in littlewhim of every player.
I am sorry to tell that this way of working already make 6 of my friend that played since released cancel this month and many other are talking of cancelling because they have nothing new to do and that everything is done so grinder can do jedi the fastest way possible. many non jedi are disgusted about that system because in a near futur non jedi profession will be the rarest one when jedi should be the rarest.
I am not talking about the lots that demonstrate only because they would have to take 9 month to be jedi (when I took over a year and some older player more than me) or some of those we saw in the forum whinning about every thing, I am talking about many player I saw in my galaxie and french community forum, that play since befor CU and are just disgusted that those that came right after the CU are now jedi and that those player are whinning about BH, smuggler or rifflemen profession when squad leader has still not been modified for the CU, or when bugs are still here after 3 month or when they cannot do there quest because of bugs, or that there is no new things to do for high level jedi.
Paint it any color you want the CU is still crap no matter how much you try tosugar coatit. I won't knock anyone who likes it and I have already pointed out the flaws with it once already. The old system had way less bugs and the game didn't lag as much as it does these days. This is really a pointless debate though as the devs didn't listen to the players then when most of the community screamed they didn't like it. They won't much listen now really. The crafting, entertaining, medical, and scouting professions have all been screwed over by the changes made in the new system. You guys talk about how much longer the grind should be, but the grind is long enough as it is especially for the Jedi grind. In fact it could stand to be shortened alittle bit and even more so for the space grind. I mean seriously come on now, who the hell wants to spent most of thier time grinding and hacking away at a profession just to be able to do the simplest of tasks? That is just plain stupid. This game has enough to do in it after you have already mastered professions to keep one buisy. I been playing damn near since day one and I still find new things to do in the game with ease.
My issue isn't really with grind times as it is with the effect the CU has had on the economy. The economy sucks and the most base professions have been turned to crap. I am a ranger by trade and to even find a decent contract now would be unheard of. The mission payouts being only 10k on every planet is by far the dumbest thing I have seen yet and that's not to mention how unbalanced the creature stats are now. The creatures are so far out of wack it isn't even funny anymore. A ancient reptilian flyer or a gaping spider hunter being stronger then a bull rancor? That is just crazy all the way around. And what they did to the creature handler profession was a damn joke all the way around too.AtleastI could honestly say the major issue with the pre-CU game was just an unbalance of professions and some creatures needing to be stronger. Now with the CU here everything is unbalanced and not even close to how it should have originally been when the CU was first talked about. And the new interface is still an eye sore. One would think by the drastic loss in the server population all across the known galaxy servers that they would have been smart enough to reroll, but obviously they are not. As for them being so great that itself is a joke just like their customer service is a joke. You guys can chap your lips on their behinds if you want to, but it doesn't change the cold fact that this gamehas gonedown hill. Oh well though that's life in the good ol'SWG galaxy for ya. Can't wait to see what they screw up next. lol
If you havea certain type of template in this game then you have no real reason to whine, or be upset.
I'm guessing you have that template.
Ecnirp wrote:If you have a certain type of template in this game then you have no real reason to whine, or be upset.
I'm guessing you have that template.
Oh oh me me me me! /raises_hand
Mr Ecnirp, the answer is Master Ranger, Master Smuggler with a little Commando and Squad Leader with an Entertainer alt?
Tante wrote:
Ecnirp wrote:
If you have a certain type of template in this game then you have no real reason to whine, or be upset.
I'm guessing you have that template.
Oh oh me me me me! /raises_hand
Mr Ecnirp, the answer is Master Ranger, Master Smuggler with a little Commando and Squad Leader with an Entertainer alt?
My point is that a lot of the people who come on here and ask what the big problem is have a nice template that doesn't give them any real issues.
If they had tried some of the other proffessions they would understand.
You have to make the best of it and get as much enjoyment as you can from the game - but when you see your profession ignored month after month or nerfed or made more generic then you start to complain and IMO you have reason to.
If no-one complained the game would get worse not better. I am sure some of the people behind SWG play but it seems a lot of the changes made since the CU were made by people who have no idea what makes a good game and who have never logged onto SWG aside from testing code.
Ecnirp wrote:
Tante wrote:
Ecnirp wrote:
If you have a certain type of template in this game then you have no real reason to whine, or be upset.
I'm guessing you have that template.
Oh oh me me me me! /raises_hand
Mr Ecnirp, the answer is Master Ranger, Master Smuggler with a little Commando and Squad Leader with an Entertainer alt?
My point is that a lot of the people who come on here and ask what the big problem is have a nice template that doesn't give them any real issues.If they had tried some of the other proffessions they would understand.
You have to make the best of it and get as much enjoyment as you can from the game - but when you see your profession ignored month after month or nerfed or made more generic then you start to complain and IMO you have reason to.
If no-one complained the game would get worse not better. I am sure some of the people behind SWG play but it seems a lot of the changes made since the CU were made by people who have no idea what makes a good game and who have never logged onto SWG aside from testing code.
just on a sidenote, I was agreeing to you
aatc wrote:
So your whining about players whining.. now, your whining has made me whine about you whining about players whining. It's avicious circle.
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Crafting mastery, experimenting, working on the rest three trees
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Mek have been a crafter all his life, since Nov 2003 so I have been thru CU and it's changes. I still think CU is very good because we have now a wider range of armor and weapons.
I'm sad to see that Soe caved in on the xp issue because you can go from 1 to 80 in 2-3 days. That is way to easy.
Swg is a game where is should be hard to lvl, it should take time. THose that dosent like the leveling and want to be lvl 80 from start have misunderstood the purpose with this game. They can go and play HL.
Swg is my fifth mmorpg and swg is by far the best. UO was good but crappy graphic, DAOC have great graphic but way to stiff on skills and you have to buy your resources if you want to be a crafter. Wow have great graphic too but still to stiff on skills, not stiff as DAOC but not far from it. Everquest... Well.. Nah
I just didn't like it. Anarchy Online had some weird animations and the controls felt... Crazy.To be top lvl in all the other four mmorpg games you would need to play atleast a week, in DAOC you need to play for a month.
SWG.. 3 days..
SOE bring on the xp nerf, the game will turn in to a strange mix between mmropg and Half-Life.
