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Thread: I Like to Burn Things!

Saqqara
Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:21 am
#1

I decided to try out Commado to see if I would like it and so far I am having a blast.

I am only 1/1/3/1 at the moment but enjoying it more than I thought I would.


One thing I noticed that kinda sucks though is after using a Flame special, if I switch to my launcher pistol it takes forever before I can actually shoot it. Not sure what's up with that but it has to be at least a 5 second delay before I can shoot.



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Ster
Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:27 am
#2






Saqqara wrote:

I decided to try out Commado to see if I would like it and so far I am having a blast.

I am only 1/1/3/1 at the moment but enjoying it more than I thought I would.


One thing I noticed that kinda sucks though is after using a Flame special, if I switch to my launcher pistol it takes forever before I can actually shoot it. Not sure what's up with that but it has to be at least a 5 second delay before I can shoot.






What you are experiencing is something that only long term commandos realize. When I first started out I thought that no one could touch me, and then I woke up. We other professions, such as TKM which I am, can dish out 1k easily a second and I am having to wait about8 seconds at master , for a 4.8 spd FT, then there is something wrong. Sorry, but you have no choice but to take the beats until the cooldown ends. And let me tell you, with high end mobs and PvP that 8 seconds is an eternity.



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Dougful
Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:34 am
#3

that may be so but its a balance issue. When you use those flame specials you do anywhere from 7000-13000 damage. Should you really be able to do that every second? I think not. Though there are issues with giving us an effective method of taking on high armored mobs and handling pvp well i don't thing you can say that there is something wrong with how the FT works because of the delay between shots.



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Saqqara
Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:39 am
#4

Thanks for the insight.



And no I don't think I should be able to deal damage that fast...I know there is a speed on the FT and mine is 3.4s but I was referring to the waiting period when switching over to the LP.


It's livable but it's not something I have seen before. It certainly doesn't happen if you switch from say a carbine to a pistol.


Thanks again.






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Rygian Nyritak ~ Chef/BE
Datchery
Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:43 am
#5

Interesting point to be made here. I have a 5.0 speed 489-885 unsliced thrower, with xx3x, I do more damage just autofiring than I do using flame1 or cone1 + their delays....what's up with that?
Ster
Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:44 am
#6






Dougful wrote:
that may be so but its a balance issue. When you use those flame specials you do anywhere from 7000-13000 damage. Should you really be able to do that every second? I think not. Though there are issues with giving us an effective method of taking on high armored mobs and handling pvp well i don't thing you can say that there is something wrong with how the FT works because of the delay between shots.






I agree that you shouldnt be able to shoot every second with a your flame special, but the key focus for most of the damage complaints is the DPS. If you look at a DPS for other professions, add in the fact (like you said), that our FT has AP0, plus we cant try a knockdown or any other defensive maneuver in those 8 seconds, our "high offensive" (yeah right) capabilites mean that we arent allowed a ton of defenses toattempt to protect us in thoselongperiodsand that is adding up to some serious drawbacks. I dont think many commandos here will disagree with that.



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Master TKA
Pistoleer 0030
nerfherder321
Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:17 am
#7

arica had the best marco, BURN BABY BURN! with like flame something... it hurt so much when we dueled




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Curxcha
Fri Jun 04, 2004 3:46 am
#8






Datchery wrote:
Interesting point to be made here. I have a 5.0 speed 489-885 unsliced thrower, with xx3x, I do more damage just autofiring than I do using flame1 or cone1 + their delays....what's up with that?






Sorry to say. But thats one poor flamethrower. With a better one you wont have that experience.



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RazerWolf
Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:23 am
#9

Shouldn't make any diffrerence how good the FT is for the difference in damage than the single shot and FS1. What you need on the FT is a Speed slice and to get to the 4th Box. FS1 is only worth using against something that'd die in one hit.



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Datchery
Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:37 am
#10

Well It's not sliced, but my point being, wouldn't I have to hit a theoretical speed cap for my auto-fire to do less damage than my specials if that were the case? I'm asking 'what is the point of a special if the delay makes it do less damage than just not using the special at all?'
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