Commando Archive
Thread: Commando and Heavy weapons
Forgot to add, that I am sure there are other templates out there. This was just one mans observation on 1 facet of the things that can be done with commando hybrids. Trying to give my brothers light on another weapon choice and avenue.
The problem is that you fired 60 rockets, which is about 120k in costs to do the same amount of damage any other combat profession can do with a weapon costing about 20k. Furthermore you took about twice as long to do it as those classes. Believe me, in pvp raids all I do is fire rockets and particle beams, but in the greater scheme of things, they are fun (its a great feeling when you land a few particle beams), but the role of laying back and providing massive fire can come at a cost much cheaper in skill points and weapons cost (a master riflemen laying back can fire AOE attacks at once a second with a much deadlier accuracy). I see alot of people that say that heavy weapons should be for vehicles/turrets etc. and I tend to agree if they are talking about rockets. However, what is the purpose of particle beams, lightning cannons, and acid cannons, if not for soft targets? Many of the newer commando's around here haven't been commandos long enough to remember our very first nerf. It was the lowering of accuracy of heavy weapons against soft targets do to one hit kills. Well guess what, one hit kills dont happen anymore due to armor and buffs, and furthermore, many other professions have surpassed the dmg done by heavy weapons, thus making this first nerf utterly pointless. At the very least, we should be fighting for a higher accuracy level against soft targets for the heavy weapons (except for rockets, which are expensive and do have a current use) as they obviously have no use for stationary targets, and must thus be anti personel weapons.
On my server RL's cost 35k and have about 30-35 rockets in a bundle. I will anhilate a master rifleman at the same range, I have done it. Sure he can deal out some damage but HIS weapon drains his mind. Mine do not. I also can put more armor on than these guys... a rifleman's T21 will not do so much against my 80% compo. He will be reduced to an Ion rifle, an Ion rifle is good for 40m, I will be hitting him at 64m. I do not use my mind for anything but my rifle specials... and with rockets I do not use em except to finish a bar. So as this guy is mindshotting me I will wait him out, Fishnak, bivoli, ormachek, and muon.... and as I do I will hit him with a few rockets or swap to the PB and keep zapping... The rifleman seems to fall alot in this situation. He is literally trading his mind for mine. Since I do not use it for rockets, he kills himself for something that is not going to bother me a bit.
I have been hit by these guys alot... they are ranged masters like I am. I have taken out 2 on me before... that rifle drains ALOT of his mind. Sometimes I just wait out the one as I am peppering the other, and then when the first is down I will turn and mindshot the other. It usually takes 1 hit... I dabbled but before I used to be a pistoleer and keep a rifleman next to me for the cover and rnge db. I do not care to get my own DB's if I have to expose myself, once I dig in I do not move until it is either forward or back.
ON AN ARMORED TARGET, I will knock off 1/3rd of his bar. Random but my rockets are hitting for 700-2300 in PVP. They are AR3. the only thing that might save them is me hitting action and them rushing my position. I do not use rockets up close... I am forced to use the torch in that situation.
I have been toying with a carbine action shot for the above situation... I am not through with my tests tho.
Unless there was a change to this since last Thursday, aiming doesn't work for any weapons in the Heavy Support line.
Try again.
Night helm... they do use food... but so do i, in heavy armor those guys cannot regen, so it DEPLETES thier mind. I use 600 at 810 sec fishnak, 225 bivoli, 500 muon, and if that is not enough, I will juice the ormachek.
The thing is... I do not use MY mind to hurt these guys... and I do not use my mind for my specials. HE does. I am in 85% compo and that is a hard puppy to pierce. I also have the med line in TKA with a stock of 1100 mind... boosted I have 1650 mind WITHOUT food OR drugs... and I use them too.
I have done extensive tests with aim, and whoever told u that id did not work, lied.
My last test was 10 rockets at 50m kneeling, target was moving... I missed 6 outta 10, only 4 hit.
Then I used the same situation on the same target kneeling at 50m, except I used double aim... I missed with 1 rocket, hit with 9...
I have many more tests, I have the numbers, if u need proof and have a site I will post screen shots of my logs on my next round of tests.