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Thread: Elemental and AoE
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Dim_Reaper
Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:49 am
#1
Sorry if this is obvious, but I've just been thinking about the difference the elemental damage will make to commando, and realised I'm not certain about something.
Normally, if I shoot say a dewback in a group of 3, one takes damage (for arguements sake, let's say 1000)and the other two take 1 point of damage. All of them attack unless I used a root special or similar.
Now I hear they're not fixing AoE yet so my question is, after the elemental is fixed, would the case above with a weapon with 300 elemental damagegive me - 1 dewy with 1300 damage and 2 dewies with 300 damage each?
OR
1 dewy with 1300 damage and 2 dewies with 1 damage each?
or is it something different?
Matheaue
Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:51 am
#2
I have never seen any Commando AoE weapon do 1 point of damage on any target. All the ones other than the main target take a fractional amount of the damage, but a significant one, something around 1/5 or 1/4 from my experience.
HarleyDan
Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:33 am
#4
I have seen anywhere in the range of 1 - 40... nothing greater then that.
Dim_Reaper
Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:13 am
#5
So it looks like different people are getting different effects then?
Now I'm even more curious what we will get with the elemental damage fixed.
Luckily I should be home from work in about 2 hours (or sooner if I can sneak off lol) so assuming the servers are up, I'll do some tests and report back here.
Matheaue, when you say you're getting about 1/5 to 1/4 AoE damage, do you mean just in the combat log, or actually damaging the creatures? Even at 1/5 of normal damage, that's still not a bad amount.
Imagine the damage done in the overlap from a commando-only group 
Satdaten
Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:32 am
#6
huh.. i get 79 damage on non-targets except lairs thats like 100. but we will find out when the server comes back up thats one of the things ill be testing since i was too enthralled in getting jedei that i never got on TC
StarNick
Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:52 am
#7
On the question of 300 elemental, that would be nice if its true. Our Lightning Beam Cannon pretty much as the highest elemental damage, of around 148 as a base without being experimented on. The Plasma FT around 89.
The Jedi have higher elemental on their sabers I believe, but they may not be as high as 300 either. Plus the damage doesn't scale up, so in a radius you'll be doing maybe 900 dmg (from a 1600 dmg shot lets say) and doing 89 heat dmg in radius, which will get reduced down to around 50 dmg for a mob thats around your level.
Elemental is definately not a replacement for base damage AoE, unless if it was scaled up...where 89 was actually 890 heat damage or something.
The Jedi have higher elemental on their sabers I believe, but they may not be as high as 300 either. Plus the damage doesn't scale up, so in a radius you'll be doing maybe 900 dmg (from a 1600 dmg shot lets say) and doing 89 heat dmg in radius, which will get reduced down to around 50 dmg for a mob thats around your level.
Elemental is definately not a replacement for base damage AoE, unless if it was scaled up...where 89 was actually 890 heat damage or something.
Dim_Reaper
Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:36 am
#8
StarNick wrote:
On the question of 300 elemental, that would be nice if its true. Our Lightning Beam Cannon pretty much as the highest elemental damage, of around 148 as a base without being experimented on. The Plasma FT around 89.
The Jedi have higher elemental on their sabers I believe, but they may not be as high as 300 either. Plus the damage doesn't scale up, so in a radius you'll be doing maybe 900 dmg (from a 1600 dmg shot lets say) and doing 89 heat dmg in radius, which will get reduced down to around 50 dmg for a mob thats around your level.
Elemental is definately not a replacement for base damage AoE, unless if it was scaled up...where 89 was actually 890 heat damage or something.
Actually I wasn't expecting 300 - just pulle dth enumber out of the air whilst I was at work, since I couldn't remember. Home now and been trying out my PFT - prety close to what you said StarNick - I'm getting 88 elemental.
However, the AoE does seem to be working - I attacked a very low-level group as a test - hit main target for 1512+88heat, and the ones near it for 604+88 heat.
I'm off back to the game now to burn stuff lol
EDIT: I was wrong 
Against a higher level swarm, where the elemental isn't enough to kill them outright, I've found it's only the elemental that is damaging on the AoE.
So if main target is 1000+88, others are getting hit for 88. The message in the combat spam seems to be still incorrect.
Shame, but for now, I'm happy with having the elemental fixed!
Message Edited by Dim_Reaper on 06-29-2005 10:11 AM
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