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Thread: Need unarmed, HELP! :)
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GotEgg
Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:24 pm
#1
Ok, i'm getting really frustrated, i can't find a way to get any decent amount of unarmed xp. I need 28k until i'm a commando (currently have master marksman and 55k combat xp). I tried baz hunting, i get 200 xp per baz (the lairs are nice, they give 1.5k), tried soloing around rori, 200-250 per kill, blah blah. - Any way to get my last 28k quickly?
Please help, i even have my launcher already, i just want to shoot things and make lots of noise!! 
TwoShots02
Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:32 pm
#2
I find that if you use a bleed shot of any type (I prefer heathshot1...1 & 2 if you have pistoleer but really doesn't matter) and switch before ANY other gunfire can take place then use unarmed the rest of the way you get quite a bit more xp per kill (mobs not lairs).
Bleed damage does not get assigned right away so if you hit with unarmed it will all get assisgned as unarmed dmg. The more dmg you do before the kill the more xp. Don't know if certain mobs are capped on xp or even if this technique still works.
Try to find mobs that are don't baf and you can do with minimal downtime. Rapid amounts of low xp that you can do all day will be more efficient than one wad of xp then you have a lot of downtime.
Other than that just keep grinding away.
Good luck!
Mister_Heavy
Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:37 pm
#3
I believe bleed damage doesn't get assigned at all actually. So if you bleed something, and then punch it once before it dies you should get full unarmed xp assuming you didn't shoot it at all with any regular shots. Go ahead and queue up healthshot 2 and then a few HS2s so you can be sure to peace out or remove your pistol before doing any regular damage.
Zarchod
Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:52 pm
#4
Head to Lok. The perleks(sp?) there give anywhere from 800-1200 xp a kill, and the lair gives around 3000xp. There are usually 5-8 around a lair so the xp is very very good. I did this to do my unarmed IV in two days. All you have to do is bleed/health shot one of them and it will come after you. That way none of the others attack you and you can deal with them one on one. Plus the bleed/health shot really helps you out! Then give a them a blind unarmed hit, switch to your vibro knuckler(a must for the speed!), and wail away. The money off the missions isn't bad either. They are rated a level 25 but they are no where near that hard. Good luck and remember to bring plenty of stim packs!
GotEgg
Mon Sep 22, 2003 2:10 pm
#5
Zarchod wrote:
Head to Lok. The perleks(sp?) there give anywhere from 800-1200 xp a kill, and the lair gives around 3000xp. There are usually 5-8 around a lair so the xp is very very good. I did this to do my unarmed IV in two days. All you have to do is bleed/health shot one of them and it will come after you. That way none of the others attack you and you can deal with them one on one. Plus the bleed/health shot really helps you out! Then give a them a blind unarmed hit, switch to your vibro knuckler(a must for the speed!), and wail away. The money off the missions isn't bad either. They are rated a level 25 but they are no where near that hard. Good luck and remember to bring plenty of stim packs!
I'll check that out! - Thanks for the advice... Should only take about 4 of these missions to get me the rest of the way!
CamaroMullet
Mon Sep 22, 2003 2:10 pm
#6
Perleks are the best. I hired a doc to heal me while I stood there and gave them a beating. Use berserk as much as possible. I got 50k+ xp in the matter of a few hours on Lok. Give it a try.
FURY_Chaser
Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:39 pm
#7
I personally grouped a droid and a pet, then went off to Rori
hunted vi vir's for an 2hrs and that got me the last box of unarmed.
CestusVirium
Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:24 pm
#8
While going on the big game hunts are all fine, well and good (fun too, I might add), it's not always possible.
I've run through the unarmed line on one server (while I was trying to master brawler, visions of a Swordsman/TKA in my head...to damned bad I get bored WAY to easy with everything) and am currently running through it with my secondary character in the following way:
Doc Buffs - Get a Master Doctor to buff all six of your non-mind stats. If you can get an entertainer that's high enough to help you buff your mind? WONDERFUL, do that too.
The best MD Buff's I got were between 1.4 and 2k on EACH of my six non-mind stats, and lasted roughly 2 hours.
Group - Get a pet or a droid (I prefer droid so it has the 'Group' and 'Stay' commands) if you don't have a companions you can group with and go your seperate ways with
Bleed Shot - Bleeding with ANY of your weapons does not count as damage. You can Action Shot (currently my best bleed, due to a damned fine Laser Carbine), then run up and pummle with unarmed. I still prefer the health bleed, because Pistols are so much faster...I can equip, fire, and put away before my archaic computer even registers that the shot hit.
I decided I wanted to go mostly solo...so I went someplace where the missions spawned close (Bestine and Anchorhead on Tatooine, my home planet, were wonderful for that) and took Diseased Bocat missions. Groups, working on unarmed three, each Bocat is worth 345 xp (310 if you're working on level 4), and you can usually draw 4-6 adults from a lair, and then pull 3-5 hundred for the lair itself.
Now, compared to the Lok grind, it's slower - per 2 missions, I was pulling in 3-4k. Took me a bit to do it, but with the Doc buffs and going against those creatures, there was almost NO risk involved. You Action and Health are high enough that you can use beserk, or baring that, spam stun, blind, and Unarmed Hit 1.
This is how I would do it...cary your tactics for your play style/skills.
I had the first four/five (depending on the level) boxes of one of my quick slot bars with the following: Attack, Unarmed Hit 1, Unarmed Stun, Unarmed Blind, Berzerk (I personally don't care for the lunges much).
The next slots weres et as follows: Pistol (a scout with a 1.7 speed), HealthShot1, Maskscent. Peace.
Approaching the Diseased Bocatt lairs, I would maskscent so they wouldn't Agro on me as fast (wasn't really necessary), TAB to target the first and hit the following:
Pistol -> HS1 -> Peace (to not attack again with the pistol) -> TAB (to next Bocat) -> HS1 -> Pistol (to unequip).
This would bleed them both, make them run after me, then I would do the follwing:
Unarmed Stun -> Unarmed Blind (skip this step if you don't have it yet) -> TAB to next Bocat -> Stun -> Unarmed Blind
By that point, I rarely needed to land more than 1/2 hits per on each and they would keel over from the damage.
Is it slow? Yes...yes it is. Slower than most unarmed combat, I know. Like I said, however, there's almost NO RISK involved in this method, as long as your careful.
Then just hit/peace the lair to draw the remaining bocats out one at a time...
Joar-Addam (Joar) Nessosin - Kettemoor, Commando in training
Cestus Virium - Scylla, Commando/Pistoleer/TKA in training
I've run through the unarmed line on one server (while I was trying to master brawler, visions of a Swordsman/TKA in my head...to damned bad I get bored WAY to easy with everything) and am currently running through it with my secondary character in the following way:
Doc Buffs - Get a Master Doctor to buff all six of your non-mind stats. If you can get an entertainer that's high enough to help you buff your mind? WONDERFUL, do that too.
The best MD Buff's I got were between 1.4 and 2k on EACH of my six non-mind stats, and lasted roughly 2 hours.
Group - Get a pet or a droid (I prefer droid so it has the 'Group' and 'Stay' commands) if you don't have a companions you can group with and go your seperate ways with
Bleed Shot - Bleeding with ANY of your weapons does not count as damage. You can Action Shot (currently my best bleed, due to a damned fine Laser Carbine), then run up and pummle with unarmed. I still prefer the health bleed, because Pistols are so much faster...I can equip, fire, and put away before my archaic computer even registers that the shot hit.
I decided I wanted to go mostly solo...so I went someplace where the missions spawned close (Bestine and Anchorhead on Tatooine, my home planet, were wonderful for that) and took Diseased Bocat missions. Groups, working on unarmed three, each Bocat is worth 345 xp (310 if you're working on level 4), and you can usually draw 4-6 adults from a lair, and then pull 3-5 hundred for the lair itself.
Now, compared to the Lok grind, it's slower - per 2 missions, I was pulling in 3-4k. Took me a bit to do it, but with the Doc buffs and going against those creatures, there was almost NO risk involved. You Action and Health are high enough that you can use beserk, or baring that, spam stun, blind, and Unarmed Hit 1.
This is how I would do it...cary your tactics for your play style/skills.
I had the first four/five (depending on the level) boxes of one of my quick slot bars with the following: Attack, Unarmed Hit 1, Unarmed Stun, Unarmed Blind, Berzerk (I personally don't care for the lunges much).
The next slots weres et as follows: Pistol (a scout with a 1.7 speed), HealthShot1, Maskscent. Peace.
Approaching the Diseased Bocatt lairs, I would maskscent so they wouldn't Agro on me as fast (wasn't really necessary), TAB to target the first and hit the following:
Pistol -> HS1 -> Peace (to not attack again with the pistol) -> TAB (to next Bocat) -> HS1 -> Pistol (to unequip).
This would bleed them both, make them run after me, then I would do the follwing:
Unarmed Stun -> Unarmed Blind (skip this step if you don't have it yet) -> TAB to next Bocat -> Stun -> Unarmed Blind
By that point, I rarely needed to land more than 1/2 hits per on each and they would keel over from the damage.
Is it slow? Yes...yes it is. Slower than most unarmed combat, I know. Like I said, however, there's almost NO RISK involved in this method, as long as your careful.
Then just hit/peace the lair to draw the remaining bocats out one at a time...
Joar-Addam (Joar) Nessosin - Kettemoor, Commando in training
Cestus Virium - Scylla, Commando/Pistoleer/TKA in training
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