Commando Archive
Thread: Another question from a WS
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Pemphigus
Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:11 pm
#1
Hi all, my dear friends the commandos.
A few weeks ago i came here asking about grenades (for soem reason i like making them) but they are indeed completely useless. Even whe i am using very low prices, the cost doesn't make it up.
But I feel very sorry about the state of your profession, i mean grenades is a whole line and its useless!
Anyway, a few days ago i stumbled accross some heavy weapons priced at 10K each and thought, isn't that price a bit too high?
Well it depends right now i am selling heavy particle beam weapons for 5K!! each (on the chimaera server)
and i feel this is more "fair" towards you.
The stats on them are: 28 uses 1900-3000 damage and between the 5.2 and 6.1 speed (dependign on using a stock or not for better accuracy)
My question is: Are these weapons usefull or is it the same story as the grenades here?
Your WS friend,
Sylvius and may the combat balance be with you.
PS: If you want the location of my shop, just send me a mail, IGN: Sylvius on the Chimaera Server
A few weeks ago i came here asking about grenades (for soem reason i like making them) but they are indeed completely useless. Even whe i am using very low prices, the cost doesn't make it up.
But I feel very sorry about the state of your profession, i mean grenades is a whole line and its useless!
Anyway, a few days ago i stumbled accross some heavy weapons priced at 10K each and thought, isn't that price a bit too high?
Well it depends right now i am selling heavy particle beam weapons for 5K!! each (on the chimaera server)
and i feel this is more "fair" towards you.
The stats on them are: 28 uses 1900-3000 damage and between the 5.2 and 6.1 speed (dependign on using a stock or not for better accuracy)
My question is: Are these weapons usefull or is it the same story as the grenades here?
Your WS friend,
Sylvius and may the combat balance be with you.
PS: If you want the location of my shop, just send me a mail, IGN: Sylvius on the Chimaera Server
peterspus
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:15 pm
#2
they are useful, but for the most part not cost prohibitive to most of the commandos out there.
Ster
Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:03 am
#3
The only weapon that is useful in that line as wellis the RL for the most part. Even that is a stretch at times. I am happy to hear that someone outside the profession actually understands that we have entire trees that are completely useless. Right now a Shock Trooper is just about as good as a Master in our sad state. Please spread the word... 
Skeptic666
Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:07 am
#4
Jesus on Bria I pay between 25-35k for a PBC What server are you agian I need to move 
Ster
Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:09 am
#5
Skeptic666 wrote:
Jesus on Bria I pay between 25-35k for a PBC What server are you agian I need to move
Yeah I forgot to mention that you are selling them really cheap and they are pretty good RLs. Hats off to ya.
FearlessBob
Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:19 am
#6
The consumable heavy weapons are afflicted with many of the same problems as grenades.
1. Horribly Inaccurate
2. HAM costs....
3. Cannot be used indoors, in caves, in dungeons, etc etc....
4. SLOOOOOOOOOW
Having said all that, HPBCs at 5k a crack ain't bad...IF you are making a profit on them at that price. I'd buy them buy the crate-load, just to have around, at 5k a crack.
If you could make Rocket Launchers for 5k a stack....and not run yourself into the poor-house doing so, then you would be a VERY popular man. At least with commandos.
If you want to focus on selling to the small segement of the population that still deludes itselfthen here's what I suggest you do:
1. Make FAST flamers. Commandos fall over themselves and squabble like cranky children for 3.0ish spd FTs. As long as you can keep the damage decent...
2. Most commandos (well...BEFORE the damned weapon delay Nerf, that is...) carry a speed FT and a damage FT.....Damage FT is used to apply the first set of DOTs, then swap to the speed FT...so, try and get some high-damage FTs....900+. My personal best FT is 3.0/1187. I also have a 5.1/1350 for applying the DOTs. As you know, making these requires serious resources AND krayt tissue.
You probably already know the above stuff....basically, commandos buy FTs and LPs and that's it. Even when I have my swordsman tanking an Elder and get my commando set up at ideal range to crank off some Rockets, I miss 3 out of 4 times.......as a master.... Until Commandos get a fix for grenades and Hvy Wps, you'd be better off selling T21s, PowerHammers and Vibro Knucklers.
Ster
Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:24 am
#7
Actually I believe they can be now. At least it was supposed to be fixed.
FearlessBob wrote:
3. Cannot be used indoors, in caves, in dungeons, etc etc....
FearlessBob
Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:32 am
#8
I haven't tried with grenades...since they are TOTALLY worthless.
But I've tried the consumables indoors. LBC/RL vs DWB mobs...no joy.
Vs. Spider Clan Elder in the Spider Clan Cave....no joy
Vs. Corvette Mobs...no joy.
Etc etc etc...ad nausem, ad infinitum...
However....all my consumables are from a while back, when I made a bunch using my WS toon. Possible that only newly produced consumables work indoors? I shall endeavor to whip up some new batches and try, try, try again.
Hellshot
Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:34 am
#9
I have used consumables, both nades and heavy weapons indoors, so they definately work.
FearlessBob
Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:40 am
#10
Alright then, that settles it. Screw making new ones....Ill just go buy some. Looks like I am heading for the DWB tonight to try out my tasty new LLC skills too. Mmmmmmmm.
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