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Thread: Smuggler or Pistoleer?

Kramero
Sat Aug 16, 2003 6:09 pm
#1

Which do YOU think is the more entertaining class, and why?



Which of the two fares well in PvP?

SanTsu
Sat Aug 16, 2003 6:12 pm
#2

I went Smuggler / Pistoleer and Im having a great time. As for PvP I think bothare good and together even better.



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Johny Longshoot
Master Smuggler/ Master Gunfighter/ Teras Kasi Master
Who needs hokey religions and ancient weapons just give me something to smuggle.
slugeater
Sun Aug 17, 2003 2:53 am
#3

I'd advise for both.
Even people for are smugglers primarily take on pistoleer to have someplace to put that combat XP into, and pistol whip is a great move. Given XP tables, you get Pistol Whip before you get LowBlow, too, and these moves spell the stop of measly XP gains and enable you to solo 1K+ XP mobs easily.



Sluggy Devlya
Master Smuggler-Politician
Avian City-Talus-Chilastra

Best way to deal with the tall guys is to give them incentives to lick the ground. And dont look down on me that way youre not THAT taller.

Rocacca
Mon Nov 03, 2003 8:40 pm
#4

For pistols I have a choice of doing dirty fighting 1-4 to use last ditch as a regular attack, or with the same points I can almost master pistoleer. This is assuming I am a doctor to buff myself to make up for the bad ham costs of Last ditch, and I will have an elite weapon with like .3 speed so the 4x delay on last ditch will be firing at regular pistol speed.
Neclonmite
Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:31 pm
#5

"and I will have an elite weapon with like .3 speed so the 4x delay on last ditch will be firing at regular pistol speed. "


What weapon, pray tell, are you going to get to .3 speed? I have never heard of that. Currently the "overpowered" FWG with krayt in them sliced for 35% speed are 1.0 Take a 33% speed enhance and thats still .7 if the 1.0 second cap isn't also applied to the weapon.


Second: accuracy. you will miss quite a bit with just smuggler. Panicshot is useful, but dirty fighting by itself really doesn't stand alone.Besides the lack of a Dx2 is going to hurt.If you can only get 1 i would say go for pistoleer. And do what you can to master it that +20 speed at the end nearly doubles your DPS.




-Neclon (Rodian) Galaxy of Bria - Master Weaponsmith - Master Merchant - Master Artisan

-Neclon (Slave of the Holocron) Galaxy of Gorath - Desolation Peake
Mastered So Far:
Artisan | Smuggler | Pistoleer | Bio Engineer | Scout | Marksman | Brawler
Image Designer | Entertainer | Medic | Teras Kasi Artist | Fencer | Swordsman
Pikeman | Squad Leader | Weaponsmith | Architect
Rocacca
Mon Nov 03, 2003 11:05 pm
#6

speed mods don't do anything when you have a weapon with 1.0 speed or bellow because the cap is 1.0.
Neclonmite
Mon Nov 03, 2003 11:26 pm
#7

False. The cap is applied at the very end. Which means a weapon that is .8 that shoots last ditch with just smuggler is goingto shoot every 2.4 seconds. .8 * 4 minus the 25% from +25 pistol speed.




-Neclon (Rodian) Galaxy of Bria - Master Weaponsmith - Master Merchant - Master Artisan

-Neclon (Slave of the Holocron) Galaxy of Gorath - Desolation Peake
Mastered So Far:
Artisan | Smuggler | Pistoleer | Bio Engineer | Scout | Marksman | Brawler
Image Designer | Entertainer | Medic | Teras Kasi Artist | Fencer | Swordsman
Pikeman | Squad Leader | Weaponsmith | Architect
NightShadow777
Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:45 pm
#8

What is the better of the two professions to go with after Master Commando/TKA. Smuggler 0/0/3/0 or Pistoleer in whatever tree is the best (not sure)?


thanks in advance,




=NightShadow=
Master Doctor/ Master Rifleman

CestusVirium
Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:31 pm
#9

Well, personally, I like both. I’ve been a Master Pistoleer (never with Commando), and it can be nice. The thing is, if you’re not going to use your Launcher Pistol regularly, then it’s really not worth taking the pistoleer OR smuggler.

If you ARE going to use your LP a lot (which I still do, personally), then I would recommend speed and accuracy (4th and 3rd lines, respectively, I believe, though I may be wrong on the accuracy, it’s been awhile).

On the flip side, I’m currently a smuggler (1-4-3-4, dropping it slowly) with the Low Blow ability, and I tell ya, being able to drop some of the mobs chasing me is nice. Now, I haven’t had a chance to play since our 2.5x damage modifier went away, but I like to hunt packs of Rogue Bantha for fun and XP. I can usually take them out with one hit using: /Kneel, /aim, /Overchargeshot2. It does about 1500 points of damage on the Bantha, after Heat Resistance is taken into accounting.

Sometimes they agro…

Running away, with my LP equipped, and a speed powerup on it, I can TAB+/lowblow (which is hotkeyed, obviously). I can knock ‘em down, while occasionally healing myself, and get far enough away to finish them off with a few body shots, and maybe a bleed, though they don’t live long enough.

Feign Death also works while holding a flamer. At lest it did two nights ago. Gonna try that when I get home tonight. The only drawback to THAT little tactic, is the flamer delay. You won’t Feign Death until your delay is done ticking down…and that can mean the difference between life or death.



Dashiva Stonehammer
TKA/Fencer/Medic
NightShadow777
Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:27 pm
#10

ok thanks.



=NightShadow=
Master Doctor/ Master Rifleman

Nighthelm
Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:37 am
#11






NightShadow777 wrote:

What is the better of the two professions to go with after Master Commando/TKA. Smuggler 0/0/3/0 or Pistoleer in whatever tree is the best (not sure)?


thanks in advance,







Do you pvp?


If you do, then I HIGHLY recommend the dirty fighting line. Having a ranged kd in lowblow is extremely valuable when being kited. But often overlooked, is the EXTREMELY useful panic shot. It's aoe, and it delays the targets next action for 10 secs. Too bad you dont have enough skill pts left to get dirty fighting 4, as nothing beats last ditch with a powered up, pre-nerf krayt launcher pistol.


Even if you just pve, having the ranged kd and the delay shot are very nice, but feign death can get you out of a pickle and has saved my hide many times.




Jered Nighthelm of the Keepers of a New Hope
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