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Thread: Just a thought of who we are, who the devs are, and where we stand.

thepunisher286
Thu Feb 05, 2004 8:04 pm
#1





For now, its not too bad.


Come next week, it will be worse, but not too bad.


Come next publish, we might not have a single working weapon. It just might still be okay.... could it?


It strikes me as odd that the developers of this fine game.... ( fine game? ) will not grant us simple requests, like title changes, a few skill changes, so on and so forth. The melee trees were granted these things at an unfathomablerate, there fore, their argument of "Its too much work" is false!


Its interesting to see a group of people, not giving thier customers simple requests, and ignoring them completely, but giving other groups of people most of the things they ask despite the complexity of the demands.


Is ourmonthly pay not as valuble as thiers? Is our loyalty not appreciated? For months, we have tried to open relations to negotiate some sort of progress in our 169 skill point sink proffesion. But they give us the cold shoulder, like the a richbuisness manto a homelessperson in dire need.


Why are we not worthy of geting the fixes/changes we truely deserve? Would it be unfeasible to just answer a simple question: Why?


Message Edited by thepunisher286 on 02-05-2004 08:08 PM

maddogs
Thu Feb 05, 2004 9:17 pm
#2

becous lord_paul dos not have any clue what to do with us hes stated that he has no plans for us and dos not like are profesion



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thepunisher286
Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:32 am
#3

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thepunisher286
Fri Feb 06, 2004 5:36 pm
#4

Is it asking too much for just a response? 5 minuites of time, not even...


I must be crazy.. im asking for attention on the commando forums
Raptor2k1
Fri Feb 06, 2004 5:38 pm
#5

/shrug


Probably the same reason only two people responded to the post I spent half on hour typing up on an effective way to completely redesign the profession and balance it at the same time.





Kyeran Halkyon

Master Gunfighter and Demolitionist of the Old Republic Navy
SWG Commando Forum


thepunisher286
Fri Feb 06, 2004 5:50 pm
#6

The only way to use commando is to be:


commando @ 0,0,4,0

master pistoleer

use launcher pistol, they can reach 400-500dmg with powerup
Holgerjr
Fri Feb 06, 2004 6:07 pm
#7

Other professions get response from the devs because they are substantially less bitter about it.


Our money is worth less because of all the complaints and negativity associated with it.


If you sold apples and one guy always complained about the apple, and degraded you for not selling better apples, I am sure you would continue to give him the worst apple in the store.


This is business, run by normal folks, as such they fix the things that they feel need fixing. This subjective approach toward repair includes a like/dislike factor. If they dislike something, they will avoid and not fix it.


I have a user on my network who complains daily, asks why others get their problems fixed, and is a general pain in the a--. Do you think I hop to it, and run to fix his problems? H--- no. He is at the very bottom of my list, and I only fix his crap if its christmas and I am bored of typing on forums.


How can we expect the devs to react in a manner better than we would?


Would you be anxious to help the guy who complains all the time, and is a general pain in the b---?





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Aidn
Fri Feb 06, 2004 6:58 pm
#8






thepunisher286 wrote:

Is it asking too much for just a response? 5 minuites of time, not even...


I must be crazy.. im asking for attention on the commando forums




Maybe we should start posting in the Chef or CM forums... They get plenty of attention there!




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Thrainkell
Fri Feb 06, 2004 7:48 pm
#9

Actually,if I remember right, the really heavy-duty bitterness didn't start in this forum until the the '2.5 mod' and 'Lord Paul' incidents, but even before that we didnt get much in the way of a response from the Devs. I guess you could look at this this way...No response IS their response....



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Commando(1-2-4-4)-Tempest-
Raptor2k1
Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:03 pm
#10

"Other professions get response from the devs because they are substantially less bitter about it."


Sorry, but that's an assumption. The facts are, we're currently still just finishing transition from the old correspondent, who left out of frustration of nothing getting done (and another left before him for the same reason) - this is why our Top 5 issues and their responses have not been looked at yet. Furthermore, if you look at most of the other combat professions, they have relatively little contact with the devs as well, so the statement that we get less responses is also BS.


Quite frankly, a good portion of the other combat professions are just as bitter, if not moreso. Acting civil is good and necessary, but you have to face the facts that we effectively only have one skill line worth using right now - 3/4 of the profession has been broken since release.


This forum is full of constuctive posts if you would care to look, but guess what? Those don't have any dev responses either.


To put it bluntly, NO combat class is going to see much input from developers until publish 7 rolls onto TC. Please stop blowing this issue up out of proportion and blaming it on negativity of those who frequent this forum, as that's nothing more than a scapegoat.


Combat classes are all currently undergoing identity counseling and development, so I suggest that whatever you think the profession should ideally be, you express in the In Concept thread where the developers can see our constructive ideas.




Kyeran Halkyon

Master Gunfighter and Demolitionist of the Old Republic Navy
SWG Commando Forum


thepunisher286
Sat Feb 07, 2004 3:47 pm
#11

raptor 2k1 - to answer your question:

Yes, I would fix the cry baby's network problem. Why? To get rid of the noise. Why put up with it? Is it a problem thats simple like his NIC is just broken? or the CAT5 is bad?


Commandos, in mass, have never asked for something gargantuan like 4 new weapons, over the top skill mods and ludicrous dmg multipliers along extra abilities, and lets not forget anti-baterial to conter combat medic's diseases!


No. We primarily asked to fix the weapons we already have, that do not work in any way as intended. Even a fix that lets use use more than the flamethrower would delight us a great deal! Just because it would show the devs are planning to fix us. Every forum has its fair share of whinners and nerf hearders. They have goten progress, where as were only being degraded.


I realise that there are some people on the DEV team that want the best for this game, but why do they ever feel the need to take away things people EARNED? The only way to keep people happy in updates is to fix the expoits/bugs , and then ADD things to counter the over powered. ADD might be a hard word for some of the devs to understand though.


Ive heard of the saying "It's only going to get worse before it gets better." - Only time will tell on that.
Raptor2k1
Sat Feb 07, 2004 7:30 pm
#12

Err, just curious, which question are you referring to? Heh, I'm kinda confused...



Kyeran Halkyon

Master Gunfighter and Demolitionist of the Old Republic Navy
SWG Commando Forum


Plasmaboy
Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:38 pm
#13

I am not really make any comments here but I would really like to read the post that this Lord_Paul made.



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