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Thread: what should of ben done to actuly fix the flamer ensted of this this ugly NERF
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Radiant-Sharpie
Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:24 am
#1
maddogs wrote:lets say i have a meatel pan thats 100% heat resitent
i shot with a fwg5 at it with a bleed of cores it ant going to do noothing in this fact i belive bleeds should take in afect of armor
i pull out my fwg5 HEAT DAM lay health health bleed 2or pull out my triangel pistol STUN DAM DAM lay health bleed 2or pull out my scout pistol ENERGY DAM lay health bleed 2
see many difrent typs of dam to get threw with a bleed only one with burn
and when it comes right down to it yes i belive that bleeds should be on resitenc base that whay you would have to slect the right wep to lay a good bleed
but now lets take a look at the same pan 100% heat resitent
i put it on the stove and it cooks whats in side wich meens i spray fire on it that never goes out becous of the napam substince that pan would get hot enogh to kill the thing it gureds this is why i blevie that burn from the flamer should not take in resistencmaybe that helpsnsa rocket has 5 layers of armor 1 some typ of metel 2 some typ of cork bord
3 some typ of metel 4 some typ of cork bord 5a difrent typ of interal metel
and it doesnt let any thing threw oxagen or any thing if a rancor was wareing some thing like this it die from its poores not geting axogen thos wich meens it cant be 100% resistent to heat to say it is would be ludicracy
but yes if it was actuly 100% heat resitent it would not afect it but nothing in this game is any thing naer that becous max armor is 3 not 5
and if i was going to take the nsa shutel and drop it into a valcano we find out it ant no 100% heat resitent ithere lol
the truth would be
it would be around 70% heat resitent and a rancor or a atst would be around 40% heat resitent
see what im saying this game throes areound trums that actuly dont meen what they say
but yes i see were youer comeing from now but nothing is 100% heat resitent so if we go by that and burn dots go by heat resitenc then i would have to demand that all 100% haet resitent mobs be lowerd to 40% but then that meen fwg5 would be abel to do dam to them wich is not going to be right and you end up with nothing but trobela good ideal would be this
100% heat = 40% vers burn mening you burn does only 60% dam to that thing
90% heat = 30% vers burn mening your burn does 70% dam to that thing
80% heat = 20% vers burn mening your burn does 80% dam
70% heat = 10% vers burn mening your burn does 90% dam
60%heat= 0% vers burn meining any thing lower then 61% heat resitent your burn does full dam
but for bleeds 100% resitent = 100% vers that bleed
and 50% resit =50% vers that bleednow down to the flame i belive some thing must ppl will not agree with thoIF it were to be truely fixed itwould have no intiale dam at all and that the stats you see on it be the actule dot dameg likeyou see with posionall they truely did is throw a pach on it becous there were tomany noobs wiening and becous of the dot bug (dot bug wich dot bug)theres 2 actuly1 when you get up from incap the dot timer dos not restat over so it instantly reincaps you2 when healed it makes the dot ticthees 2 bugs have caous much much grife and all the had to do is fix thees bugs but no ensted they throw a pach over it and in the end they will still have to fix it
I can see the need for the flamer DOT to take armor and resists into consideration due to "Ballance" reasons.. The problem is, right now its our ONLY weapon.. We can ONLY do heat damage.
Honestly, I don't think this would be such a big deal if the HAR worked properly, (imagine LLC except w/ AR1 and Acid damage) and we had some good attacks and accuracy for the launcher pistol.. If something's resistant to heat, melt them w/ the HAR.. If something's resistant to Acid.. roast it.. If something's vuln to blast, shoot it over and over again with rockets (which should be either a lot cheaper, or have 200 per stack) and the LP.
maddogs
Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:45 am
#2
screw the gay har give me the BEAM REFLE and make it ecatly like the llc in stats and spacials expt it have ap 2 and do blasted dameg then we actuly be abel to kill a atst
and you could give it alsom gaphics of a giant laser shooting out in a beam for singel and a giant beam of laser swinging from right to left for cone
and give it the hpbc sound afects when its shooting its specails
maddogs
Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:25 pm
#3
lets say i have a meatel pan thats 100% heat resitent
i shot with a fwg5 at it with a bleed of cores it ant going to do noothing in this fact i belive bleeds should take in afect of armor
i pull out my fwg5 HEAT DAM lay health health bleed 2or pull out my triangel pistol STUN DAM DAM lay health bleed 2or pull out my scout pistol ENERGY DAM lay health bleed 2
see many difrent typs of dam to get threw with a bleed only one with burn
and when it comes right down to it yes i belive that bleeds should be on resitenc base that whay you would have to slect the right wep to lay a good bleed
but now lets take a look at the same pan 100% heat resitent
i put it on the stove and it cooks whats in side wich meens i spray fire on it that never goes out becous of the napam substince that pan would get hot enogh to kill the thing it gureds this is why i blevie that burn from the flamer should not take in resistenc
i shot with a fwg5 at it with a bleed of cores it ant going to do noothing in this fact i belive bleeds should take in afect of armor
i pull out my fwg5 HEAT DAM lay health health bleed 2or pull out my triangel pistol STUN DAM DAM lay health bleed 2or pull out my scout pistol ENERGY DAM lay health bleed 2
see many difrent typs of dam to get threw with a bleed only one with burn
and when it comes right down to it yes i belive that bleeds should be on resitenc base that whay you would have to slect the right wep to lay a good bleed
but now lets take a look at the same pan 100% heat resitent
i put it on the stove and it cooks whats in side wich meens i spray fire on it that never goes out becous of the napam substince that pan would get hot enogh to kill the thing it gureds this is why i blevie that burn from the flamer should not take in resistenc
maybe that helps
nsa rocket has 5 layers of armor 1 some typ of metel 2 some typ of cork bord
3 some typ of metel 4 some typ of cork bord 5a difrent typ of interal metel
and it doesnt let any thing threw oxagen or any thing if a rancor was wareing some thing like this it die from its poores not geting axogen thos wich meens it cant be 100% resistent to heat to say it is would be ludicracy
but yes if it was actuly 100% heat resitent it would not afect it but nothing in this game is any thing naer that becous max armor is 3 not 5
and if i was going to take the nsa shutel and drop it into a valcano we find out it ant no 100% heat resitent ithere lol
the truth would be
it would be around 70% heat resitent and a rancor or a atst would be around 40% heat resitent
see what im saying this game throes areound trums that actuly dont meen what they say
but yes i see were youer comeing from now but nothing is 100% heat resitent so if we go by that and burn dots go by heat resitenc then i would have to demand that all 100% haet resitent mobs be lowerd to 40% but then that meen fwg5 would be abel to do dam to them wich is not going to be right and you end up with nothing but trobel
3 some typ of metel 4 some typ of cork bord 5a difrent typ of interal metel
and it doesnt let any thing threw oxagen or any thing if a rancor was wareing some thing like this it die from its poores not geting axogen thos wich meens it cant be 100% resistent to heat to say it is would be ludicracy
but yes if it was actuly 100% heat resitent it would not afect it but nothing in this game is any thing naer that becous max armor is 3 not 5
and if i was going to take the nsa shutel and drop it into a valcano we find out it ant no 100% heat resitent ithere lol
the truth would be
it would be around 70% heat resitent and a rancor or a atst would be around 40% heat resitent
see what im saying this game throes areound trums that actuly dont meen what they say
but yes i see were youer comeing from now but nothing is 100% heat resitent so if we go by that and burn dots go by heat resitenc then i would have to demand that all 100% haet resitent mobs be lowerd to 40% but then that meen fwg5 would be abel to do dam to them wich is not going to be right and you end up with nothing but trobel
a good ideal would be this
100% heat = 40% vers burn mening you burn does only 60% dam to that thing
90% heat = 30% vers burn mening your burn does 70% dam to that thing
80% heat = 20% vers burn mening your burn does 80% dam
70% heat = 10% vers burn mening your burn does 90% dam
60%heat= 0% vers burn meining any thing lower then 61% heat resitent your burn does full dam
but for bleeds 100% resitent = 100% vers that bleed
and 50% resit =50% vers that bleed
100% heat = 40% vers burn mening you burn does only 60% dam to that thing
90% heat = 30% vers burn mening your burn does 70% dam to that thing
80% heat = 20% vers burn mening your burn does 80% dam
70% heat = 10% vers burn mening your burn does 90% dam
60%heat= 0% vers burn meining any thing lower then 61% heat resitent your burn does full dam
but for bleeds 100% resitent = 100% vers that bleed
and 50% resit =50% vers that bleed
now down to the flame i belive some thing must ppl will not agree with tho
IF it were to be truely fixed it
would have no intiale dam at all and that the stats you see on it be the actule dot dameg likeyou see with posion
all they truely did is throw a pach on it becous there were tomany noobs wiening and becous of the dot bug (dot bug wich dot bug)
theres 2 actuly
1 when you get up from incap the dot timer dos not restat over so it instantly reincaps you
2 when healed it makes the dot tic
thees 2 bugs have caous much much grife and all the had to do is fix thees bugs but no ensted they throw a pach over it and in the end they will still have to fix it
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