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Thread: Some HAR Testing and numbers

mochloD
Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:29 pm
#1

Let me first say that the Heavy Infantry title is very tight and may very well be the coolest thing about the Heavy Acid Rifle line.


The weapons ill be using for testing are as follows-

FlameThrower (FT)-



  • Speed: 3.1

  • Min Dmg: 451

  • Max Dmg: 846

  • Wound: 18.8%

  • Special Attack Cost: Health-74, Action-17, Mind-17.

  • Sliced for speed

Heavy Acid Rifle (HAR)-



  • Speed: 3.6

  • Min Dmg: 331

  • Max Dmg: 750

  • Wound: 35.8%

  • Special Attack Cost: Health-89, Action-54, Mind-18.

  • Sliced for speed

Our willing test subject is the Ikopi on naboo, it has no armor and no resists to any dmg type (vulnerable to stun it says on the examine window.... /shrug).


FT- /flamesingle2: Dmg done to the Ikopi- 6669. Number that floated over my head- 14. For the cost of 14 HAM i was able to obliterate an ikopi with 6669 dmg.


HAR- /acidsingle2: Dmg done to the Ikopi- 3506. Number that floated over my head- 175. For the cost of 175 HAM i was able to kill the ikopi with 3506 dmg.


So basically it costs me 161 more HAM to do 3163 less dmg with the HAR than with the FT.


Just incase you all are curious.. here's my stat setup HAM-wise:



  • Health- 800

  • Strength- 650

  • Constitution- 700

  • Action- 800

  • Quickness- 450

  • Stamina- 400

  • Mind- 750

  • Focus- 500

  • Willpower- 500

  • Race- Sexy Lizard

I think the HAR needs a bit more work still. Costs way too much HAM wise, does diddly squat dmg wise, and is still too slow speed wise. If the HAR had Medium AP (AP2) i would have done around 5400 dmg (if my math in regards to the way ap works is right)to the Ikopi. It still wouldnt be up there dmg wise with the FT, but it would give us a great alternative to the FT. As it stands now, id rather go unarmed than fight with the HAR (still going to try it tonight tho).


The HAR is getting there but we have a little bit to go.




mochloD'tmos
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RayvinCorp
Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:40 pm
#2

Is that at Master?


I would still like to see some numbers as to damage and speed wise on a larger creature though. I know before the patch I had almost a 25 second timer before I could preform another action after an acid cone 2.



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mochloD
Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:49 pm
#3






RayvinCorp wrote:

Is that at Master?


I would still like to see some numbers as to damage and speed wise on a larger creature though. I know before the patch I had almost a 25 second timer before I could preform another action after an acid cone 2.







That is not at master, i only have Flame 4 and HAR 4. From what i can tell, the only thing im missing is accuracy (each attack above hit on the first attempt). The HAM costs and dmg output for both attacks would be the same whether i was a master or not.


I plan on testing the HAR against some higher end creatures later on tonight.




mochloD'tmos
Order of Teras Kasi
~ Teras Kasi Master ~
~ Shock Trooper/Heavy Infantry/Trickshot/Medic ~

RayvinCorp
Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:07 pm
#4

Accuracy does effect the damage somewhat, which is why I was asking. I am really interested to see if the HAR would be a viable weapon in group combat situations, say against a spawn of enraged bull rancors, or if it would still be a waste and the launcher pistol would be better overall on those types of mobs....


I am just stuck at work and won't be able to test any of it myself for a while.



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tacwraith
Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:25 pm
#5

accuracy does not affect damage at all.




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maddogs
Tue Mar 16, 2004 9:27 pm
#6

the har is slower and dos less dam with extremly high ham cost


you could get a dx2 (novice pistoler ) with ap1 and out dameg the thing useing haf the ham that you would useing a har

basicly ths thing should be amaster marks men wep not a commando wep

now hey theres a ideal give the har to master marks men lol the things nothing but crap any way lol



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